Norwegian billionaire given US $30,400 drunken driving fine

Al M. said:

In terms of culture wars, here is what a real conservative said:

“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”

Barry Goldwater

(Not that I am against Christians, I am a Catholic myself, but keep the culture wars out of government please.)

While I don't appreciate all of Goldwater's stances either, I wish back the days when we had a real conservative party in this country, because we absolutely need it (there has to be a true yin and yang on the economic battlefield). Unfortunately, the current GOP is fake. Just look at what they are willing to do with the national debt in the new tax proposal, while they were railing against it under Obama. Hypocrites. All independent economists so far have said that any rosily projected economic growth does not neutralize the negative impact of the tax cuts on government balances.

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jeffrey_t said:

It's the law of unintended consequences. Before Row V Wade, the Evangelicals had little interest in politics. After the legalization of abortion, they were fully engaged and the dying Republican party found a new base. Trump's campaign offered little to no detail on how he was going to "Make 'Merica Great Again" EXCEPT for releasing a very detailed list of the anti-abortion judges that he would nominate to the courts. Between this list and Mike Pence this is how a serial philander and pussy grabber got the Evangelical vote.

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