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    Unhappy Help me beat my CD Transport

    Long story short - My CD / SACD transport sounds better than my music server / file player. Now, I am faced with having to manually playing physical media. Please recommend to me a File based player that can beat my transport.

    CD Transport : DCS Vivaldi

    File based player : Aurender W20 with wordclock input from DCS Vivaldi clock. Output is AES / EBU (tried USB - AES was better)

    DAC : Vivaldi DAC + upsampler

    Please help.
    Source : Aurender W20, DCS Vivaldi V2 stack + Antelope Atomic clock, Bergmann Sleipner + Benz Micro LPS, ARC ref2 SE, VPI HRX + Koetsu Blue Azule, Thales Audio Simplicity arm + TT + Benz Micro LPS

    Amplification : Gryphon Pandora + Mephisto Stereo or Naim Statement

    Speaker : ProAc Carbon 8

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    Joeling, I have some fears moving to streaming that things won't match my superlative Eera cdp.
    I'm planning to run streaming alongside cdp and tt, and use streaming for
    1- music that just isn't readily available on physical media
    2- find music I'll love and get the black or silver disc if it's available
    3- expand my musical universe
    It's NOT going to be a replacement esp for my cdp.

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    Joeling ... Slightly OT , but would luv to hear your experience with the mighty Naim Statments !
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeling View Post
    Long story short - My CD / SACD transport sounds better than my music server / file player. Now, I am faced with having to manually playing physical media. Please recommend to me a File based player that can beat my transport.

    CD Transport : DCS Vivaldi

    File based player : Aurender W20 with wordclock input from DCS Vivaldi clock. Output is AES / EBU (tried USB - AES was better)

    DAC : Vivaldi DAC + upsampler

    Please help.
    Short answer - never heard about someone achieving it. Unfortunately most developers have been focusing mainly in USB, not in high quality network servers.
    DCS Vivaldi 2.0 stack, Magico Mini II's while waiting for the XLF successor, Forsell Air Force One, ARC Phono 3, Lamm ML1.2 Ref, Lamm L2ref, TA OPUS MM2 IC's and sp, TA XL digital, TA XL gen V power cables, CenterStage footers and Nordost Qkore8's!

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    LessLoss Laminar streamer
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    Discounts available for 2 or more (no kidding, on the website checkout).

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiritofmusic View Post
    Joeling, I have some fears moving to streaming that things won't match my superlative Eera cdp.
    I'm planning to run streaming alongside cdp and tt, and use streaming for
    1- music that just isn't readily available on physical media
    2- find music I'll love and get the black or silver disc if it's available
    3- expand my musical universe
    It's NOT going to be a replacement esp for my cdp.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeling View Post
    Long story short - My CD / SACD transport sounds better than my music server / file player. Now, I am faced with having to manually playing physical media. Please recommend to me a File based player that can beat my transport.

    CD Transport : DCS Vivaldi

    File based player : Aurender W20 with wordclock input from DCS Vivaldi clock. Output is AES / EBU (tried USB - AES was better)

    DAC : Vivaldi DAC + upsampler

    Please help.
    It 's very hard to beat the source costing 2 or 3 times more than the other , irrespectively if this concerns analog or digital.
    Moreover Vivaldi transport, upsampler and DAC are optimised as a set by the manufacturer.
    Even if your clock is Antelope then the price of the source is approx 100 k euro, cabling not included.
    Aurender with DAC cost a half.
    I heard the whole Vivaldi stack only once and IMHO this cannot be outperformed by Aurender with any DAC I know.
    Maybe Pacific DAC?
    I also auditionned SGM with HQ Player in Monaco and I would give it a listen , especially with new Lampi top of the line.
    Last edited by marslo; 10-11-2017 at 10:45 AM.
    Aurender W20->Audio Aero La Fontaine/ Lampizator Big 7 -> Ayon Crossfire III -> Avantgarde Acoustic Duo Mezzo XD
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    Once we decide what is the very best dedicated CD player ever made, I am planning to wait for everyone to switch to streaming, and then buy such (then obsolete) CD player for scrap value.

    Then I will finally have digital.
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    Just get the Eera now, Ron, and be done LOL.

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    . . . Maybe next year.

    But over the years I think I have replicated on LP almost all of my crappy 1980s one-hit wonder bands and miscellaneous rock and pop I had originally on CD.
    Mono and Stereo - Senior Contributing Reviewer

    turntable: American Sound AS-2000; tonearms: SME 3012R, Schröder LT; cartridges: ZYX UNIverse Premium X-SB2, Air Tight Opus-1; tape: Studer A820 Mk II; phono stage: Aesthetix Io Eclipse with 2 power supplies; line stage: VTL TL-7.5 Series III; amplifier: VTL Siegfried Series II; loudspeaker: Gryphon Pendragon; cables: MasterBuilt Ultra; stands: Herzan + Taiko Tana + Evo LPS for Io, custom for turntable, Stacore Basic+ for amps; power: Benjamin Electric subpanel, JPS in-wall wire, Furutech NCF outlets, Torus AVR60BAL; room: 19' wide X 24' long X 14' tall; acoustic treatment: SoundSense A.T.I. + Lumitex drapes + Vibramat, ASC IsoThermal Tube Traps; tweaks: Shakti Stones, Shun Mooks, self-propelled sound-absorbing cocker-poo

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