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    Nasotec Swing Headshell

    Any adopters here of this very unconventional but interesting headshell?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei7NjQ_7QxY

    http://www.highendcity.com/swing-headshell/




    Intrigue got the better of me (yet again) after discovering this by chance, so an order went in and on return from a trip overseas, it was waiting here for me. I didn't intend installing it just yet as my TT is not fully finished but the other night thought ok, let's just give it a go and spent a couple of hours swapping the Art 9 over and getting the set up spot on with my laser engraved protractor specific to my SAEC WE506/30. Prior I was using SAEC ULS-3x, sintered aluminium oxide which is exremely hard material and very very stiff. This is the top SAEC headshell. Though I have not used any other shell's on my arm, I do have access to several through friends but was always contenet with the ULS-3x, so just stayed with it.

    Anyway, the improvent that the Nasotec is claiming is to 'reduce', not eliminate error, from a pivoting arm. There is plenty of technical info on their website about why and what they are aiming at with this. Does it make any difference? Yes, it does. After the first few notes on Tracy Chapmans wonderful debut LP, it was obvious that the claims are backed up with ability. Notes seem to just flow unconstrained, at ease, with what I had considered more background notes, ambience etc coming more to the fore, bass in particular has very good texture and clean decay which really fleshes out the sound. A dozen or more Lp's simply confirm this, and last night, my Antal Dorati-Decca DMM-Stravinsky Rite of Spring sounded better than I have heard before, anywhere, truly captivating from begining to end.

    I'm interested if any of you have used this? I know Daytona 600 has, so perhaps add your thoughts?

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    Another interesting seems Arche of acoustical System,could be better than this

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    Yea used one of these around 18 month's ago. Pretty good, but very fussy to set up. They do have an upgraded version now that a mate of mine said is a lot easier on set up and sounds better.. great to hear you are enjoying it.

    I eventually went to the next logical step - tangential tracking with the Thales Simplicity II.

    The Arche is nice and very expensive, but does nothing to reduce/eliminate tracking error.

    Logically to truly get better sound, go and listen to a tangential tonearm. This is the next true step forward in tonearm design.
    Source:TW Raven AC-3 - Thales Simplicity II, Exclusive P3 & P10, Technics SL-1000MK3D, Linn LP12 - Naim ARO
    Cartridges: Lyra Atlas, Etna SL, Delos, Dynavector XV-1s, Technics EPC100mk4, Ortofon A90, GM Royal, GM Classic, Denon DL-S1, ESC'd 103R, Audio Tech AT25, OC9II, Linn ESC'd Troika
    Phono Stage: TW Acustik/Thoress phono, Accuphase C-37, Esoteric E-03 EQ: ​​DEQX HDP-4
    Preamp: cj GAT, Amps: cj teflon premier 8a's, D'Agostino Momentum Stereo, Speakers: Wilson Maxx3 -Townsend Supertweeters

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    I have a Bergmann Sindre with tangential arm air bearing.
    Sound seems float in the air

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    They seem a little expensive for what they are, straight out of Asia. Even a healthy markup doesn't really land you that far out. But headshell prices are somewhat of an on going joke, so what are you going to do... just use what works.
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    I imagine that the Nasotec gives a taste of what a tangential gives, and is a good option for many vintage arms out there & still in use. Floating with crisp imaging free from speakers is what this brings, possibly not to the level of a good parrallel(?) but very very enjoyable, so much so that the cost is not an issue for what it does.

    XV, possibly the original you had didn't have the springs as per the current version? I did read that it was a PITA to set up, though this version like your friend says is not too bad at all, just be patient as always. Looking forward to installing a XV-1s/ Colibri / London Reference as the next step!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gian60 View Post
    I have a Bergmann Sindre with tangential arm air bearing.
    Sound seems float in the air
    Nice. No need for expensive headshells with that wonderful tonearm.
    Source:TW Raven AC-3 - Thales Simplicity II, Exclusive P3 & P10, Technics SL-1000MK3D, Linn LP12 - Naim ARO
    Cartridges: Lyra Atlas, Etna SL, Delos, Dynavector XV-1s, Technics EPC100mk4, Ortofon A90, GM Royal, GM Classic, Denon DL-S1, ESC'd 103R, Audio Tech AT25, OC9II, Linn ESC'd Troika
    Phono Stage: TW Acustik/Thoress phono, Accuphase C-37, Esoteric E-03 EQ: ​​DEQX HDP-4
    Preamp: cj GAT, Amps: cj teflon premier 8a's, D'Agostino Momentum Stereo, Speakers: Wilson Maxx3 -Townsend Supertweeters

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    Hi Scott,

    The KL Audio arm is without doubt something I will consider along with the Thales and possibly the Bergmann arm when I do the build of the DP80 that have.

    Out of interest, have you used the Nasotec with a London Reference?

    Rgds,
    Paul
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    Balanced Power ~ 'Symetrica' by Z:Axis Audio TT Sony TTS 8000 / SAEC WE-506/30 / Nasotec Swing / Aidas PanzerHolz-Diamond, Allnic H3000 Phono /KR Audio 'Lampi Anniv 5U4G CD Esoteric transport / Concert Fidelity DAC 040B/D /Concert Fidelity 080LSX2 Pre / ZL200 Amplifiers / Martin Logan Spire - Extensively modified. Cabling is by Z-Axis Audio, Reference mains leads, 'Reference B52' interconnects, 'Livewire' speaker cables. Mirage equipment support.

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    Hey guys, save y'self all that extra cash, and splash out all of 800 on the Trans Fi Audio Terminator T3Pro air bearing linear tracker.
    If anything can be called a giant killer in audio, this is it.
    It doesn't just slay giants, it thumbs it's nose at them, and takes them out at the knees.
    There are current owners who've traded SMEs, Grahams, even the Kuzma Airline, for this baby.
    I've been running one for a few yrs, and it's a real paradigm shift for me.
    Moved from Roksan Artemiz and SME V w VDH internal wiring.
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    Paul and Gian, this arm is a major reason why I may v well stick w my current tt and not move away, the synergy is plain spooky.
    Can I really move back to a pivoted, even one as stellar as the SAEC?
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