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Thread: ZYX Diamond vs Jan Allaerts MC 2 Formula One

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    Interesting match... actually there are some misunderstangins about correct identification of ZYX's cartridges.
    In the past there was an appreciable choice between different coils (copper/silver/gold) and different output level (low or high); but IMHO it's disturbing to see that sometimes the same cartridge has different names depending on the market region.

    About the match I ask to Gian if he remember gain and impedance setting choosen for the Zyx. Again... it was an 0,24 mv version? It seems that the new production has an output level very very low...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gian60 View Post
    Thorens with Da vinci Grandezza
    Pre Shindo Monbrison
    Amp Goldmund Telos 360
    Montagna speaker
    Which phono stage did you use for the Allaerts? The MC in the Shindo or a separate set-up of phono? I am very familiar with both the Monbrison and Allaerts MC1B...

    I would not expect the Allaerts MC2 with its high internal impedance to work well with anything but a solid state phonosage with 500-1K loading.

    The ZYX would be more forgiving of loading...
    Accuphase E600, Devore O/96, DPS 2, Schroeder No. 2fw, Allaerts MC1B, Accuphase C37

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    I was not there
    They use monbrison phono

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    I am using a Goldmund PH3.8.
    The Diamond costs € 24.5K (around USD.29K) and its specs can be found on official ZYX website.
    Jan Allaerts MC2 Formula 1 costs € 12 K(around USD 14K) and its specs can be found on JA website.
    I like the two cartridges but in the system with Goldmund PH 3.8, Goldmund Mimesis 22H, Goldmund Telos 360 and Montagna Spark CF the Diamond offers a general result i prefer.
    Of course it is not always true, in other systems it can be the opposite.
    I think that if i try to judge a cartridge (not so easy as depends from so many factors.. tonearm, TT, phono preamp and also the rest of the system) the result can be very different depending on what the listener is looking for (expecially if it is based on parameters).
    For example ... searching the "image" i could be very touched by the AN IO LTD. But if it is dynamics i am searching ....DST cartridges like old Ikeda (or new ART 1000 AT or ancient Neumann/Lumiere DST...etc etc)
    Timber?
    Speed?
    Timing? Often i will find different answers.
    But i think the preference will be greatly influenced by the answer to this question: how much importance the listener gives to a single (or multiple) parameter in the full ensamble of the listening of music (and what he research at home in comparison with live listening? Which kind of? I mean, generally speaking, if i go twice a week to listen classic music, probably i will find satisfaction from a different aesthetic proposal compared to yours that go twice a week to listen rock live music).
    I hope it is understandable...
    TT & TA & Cart: Versa, Monaco+Graham Phantom II, Thorens+Da Vinci GrGrRef, Amaltea+Pluto5A, ZYX Diamond G, Audio Tekné 6310, Kondo IOM, Ikeda 9, Jan Allaerts MC2 F 1, AN IOLTD.
    Pre& trafo ANJ AN6C,FM 122 MKII, AN M3+S3,Yam Fenice, Shindo Mombrison, Sākuma LCC. Goldmund mim 11
    Power ANJKondo Gakuon 845, Sākuma 845, Audio Tekné 8501, Shindo WE 300B, S.Physics 12A, Yam Apollo, Telos360.
    SPKRS: Goldmund Apologue, Montagna Spark III, Vivid Audio GiYa G1, Yam Dionisio, FAL SR.

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    @ analyzer:
    La Zyx č caricata a 100 Ohm mentre la JA attorno ai 1KOhm.
    La Zyx esce a 0.24 mV (ma a 3.56 cm/sec, a 5 cm/sec č circa 0.35mV) e il guadagno č a +63d) la JA a 0.15 mV (a 5 cm/sec) per cui i guadagno lo setto a +70 dB).
    Non credo che Universe e Diamond siano la stessa testina con nomi diversi, la Universe mi pare di derivazione linea Airy mentre Diamond deriva dalla linea Omega.
    Penso che solo delle Ultimate solo la serie Dynamic esca un po' pių bassa delle altre (a 0.15 mV/3.56cm/sec).
    TT & TA & Cart: Versa, Monaco+Graham Phantom II, Thorens+Da Vinci GrGrRef, Amaltea+Pluto5A, ZYX Diamond G, Audio Tekné 6310, Kondo IOM, Ikeda 9, Jan Allaerts MC2 F 1, AN IOLTD.
    Pre& trafo ANJ AN6C,FM 122 MKII, AN M3+S3,Yam Fenice, Shindo Mombrison, Sākuma LCC. Goldmund mim 11
    Power ANJKondo Gakuon 845, Sākuma 845, Audio Tekné 8501, Shindo WE 300B, S.Physics 12A, Yam Apollo, Telos360.
    SPKRS: Goldmund Apologue, Montagna Spark III, Vivid Audio GiYa G1, Yam Dionisio, FAL SR.

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