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    Had the 250.5 with the legacy Summits. Great combo in my system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregadd View Post
    No. Too polite.
    utter nonsense ..........
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    Hello and good morning to you, twitch. Instead of disagreeing, how about telling us why you disagree backed up with some experience you may have with the components. It wouldn't hurt to be a little bit more polite in your response either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treitz3 View Post
    Hello and good morning to you, twitch. Instead of disagreeing, how about telling us why you disagree backed up with some experience you may have with the components. It wouldn't hurt to be a little bit more polite in your response either.

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    Gladly Tom.........

    I have owned and enjoyed various dipole speakers (Logans and Maggies) over the past 35 years and have done so with several of Nelson Pass's designs, all with great results. Along with this I have been a member of the Martin Logan Owners forum for the past twelve years, serve as it's forum administrator, sat in on numerous listening session at various locations with Pass powered Logans providing the great sonic pleasures. Also ten years ago I organized a two day pilgrimage to Lawrence, Ks where we were part of a 'beta' test for new Logan products under development. During those two days we enjoyed multiple listening sessions with the latest Logan speakers, driven by ......... Pass amplification.

    As for my response, well I guess you understand why I wasn't as 'polite' as Greg feels the amps are !
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    Quote Originally Posted by twitch View Post
    utter nonsense ..........
    ...Why I did not respond. Go ahead. Learn the hard way.
    Last edited by Gregadd; 10-28-2017 at 12:35 PM.
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    My initial response to the Pass labs was on the ML Owners forum. It began a downward spiral that led to my being banned.
    My opinion that the ML / Pass is to polite is my opinion. Sad that it could never be accepted as such.
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    I have owned prodigy and now CLX ART

    I have tried a lot of amplifiers both valve and solid state

    My own opinion is Goldmund are the best I have heard with CLX

    Pass is one of the amplifiers often suggested as well as Conrad Johnson

    I think it comes down to personal taste which is better

    But the Goldmund is the only solid state I have heard that seem to handle all the issues the CLX presents

    I would lamm also do this with aplomb though not powerful enough in my room

    I would suspect the big pass labs would perform well if the Lamms do

    My room is big so it’s not a criticism of the amps to run out of puff ...
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    HI Awsmone, power for your room aside, which amps do you think could sound right based on the amps that you have tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregadd View Post
    ...Why I did not respond. Go ahead. Learn the hard way.
    LOL............but you're entitled to your 1% opinion !

    Quote Originally Posted by Gregadd View Post
    My initial response to the Pass labs was on the ML Owners forum. It began a downward spiral that led to my being banned.
    My opinion that the ML / Pass is to polite is my opinion. Sad that it could never be accepted as such.
    go get 'em 1% er !!
    Cheers - Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregadd View Post
    No. Too polite.
    My opinion is that it depends on which Pass Labs amp. I have the ML Renaissance 15A and indeed, I found either the XA30.8 or the XA60.8 mono blocks too polite and maybe even too warm. Move up to the XA100.8 and even better, the X350.8 and not too polite or warm at all. Add either the XP-22 or Xs Pre and OMG, simply heavenly! I went through a multitude of amps including the Merrill Thor/Veritas, Burmester 911 Mk3, Luxman M-900u, and Constellation Centaur II and for my tastes, the Pass Labs won out. The Burmester had the fastest transients (and perhaps was the most transparent sounding) with the Merrill amps sounding the most neutral but the Pass Labs X350.8 paired with at least an XP-22 was not far behind. Compared to the others, the Pass Labs had more air, better tonal weight, better (more realistic) decay, better textural detail, and that seductive Pass Labs tonal sweetness that brings to life my Martin Logans.

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