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    Quote Originally Posted by ack View Post
    I just read patent 8,737,632 - good to know one can a get a patent based on groundless claims, as long as no one else has done that, and as long as it's presented in a semi-credible way. Nice.
    So does that mean you will not be re-painting your room when he licenses his paint technology to Sherwin Williams?
    You can probably get a paint discount if you buy some of those gong bowls in a matching color!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    are you sure? i thought he was a printer by trade before SR.
    Do you know that the earliest known sound recording device was developed by a French printer and bookseller? As a printer by trade, Scott de Martinville was able to read accounts of the latest scientific discoveries and became an inventor. Au Clair de la Lune is the first existing recording of singing, almost three decades before Edison wax cylinder.
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    Thanks for the comedy.

    "so what is your patent on?"

    "it's on using or not using piezoelectric materials to make paint that is intended to make sound more warm"

    "I thought you had another one?"

    "of ya it's on placing objects that are or are not metal or of any defined measurements, in the front AND back of a room to affect bass frequencies"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    A skilled Ham radio operator should be able to tell what the box is transmitting.

    But it works (or doesn't work) a lot like noise cancelling headphones and loudspeakers. Noise cancelling headphones work rather well. Noise cancelling speakers work OK for one listener with their head in a fixed position, like a car's driver's seat. But in a room with more than one listening position, they don't work at all.
    Considering the wavelengths involved in these processes the boxes must be work in a completely different way from noise cancellation in the audio frequencies, that simply generate an out of phase signal to cancel the noise in a band of audio frequencies.

    Some of these devices simply use the RF harmonics created by programmable devices. The critical part is just the software that controls the frequency patterns and may be the amplitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Folsom View Post
    (...) The biggest issue is that most people don't understand that rfnoise isn't audible 99% of the time by itself, but the effect it has is... Everyone is under an extremely false belief that they "hear" the noise in the playback (rfnoise & enoise), and not the abberational effects of it (which is what you do hear). Because of that, it's nearly impossible to be truthful about what you're doing with lots of cables, grounding boxes, etc. People won't stand for it because conceptually it's too much for them. For them, RF means the radio in the car, and that's all.
    In the good old analog and AM days you detected a RF problem in your system because you could listen to the news or strange foreign voices in your system ... Nowadays, as most RF is just the carrier of digital signals we do not realize easily that RF is really affecting the performance of our systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marty View Post
    So does that mean you will not be re-painting your room when he licenses his paint technology to Sherwin Williams?
    You can probably get a paint discount if you buy some of those gong bowls in a matching color!
    I don't think we give him the credit he deserves. His paint is totally transparent, so that you can use any color of your choice underneath it; and it's conductive, so you can plug it into your favorite ground box; or perhaps we can use it as an antenna... there you go, the antenna paint, I just came up with a smashing new patent... And those bowls... do I hear sex toys???? I think all of his inventions must have started out as a joke, but then... he took himself seriously. How about The Audiophile Jackhammer - that'll break new ground
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    Quote Originally Posted by Folsom View Post
    Yes, they do all of that. It is by creating a lot of RF in a spectrum that doesn't cause other problems. Certain ranges of RF tend to sound bad, others do exactly what you describe. Either way it's a pretty impossible "sell", so no one claims it.

    Measurements show it, too. All known electronics knowledge support it. But most people stand around scratching their heads because if something 'positive' happens, how can it come from something traditionally 'negative' in engineering terms? Well it isn't hard to figure out. First off the positive isn't accurate to real life, but helps give some things back that were taken while recording. In general, with live music that is acoustic, you NEVER get the level of "resolution", detail, or "imaging" that you can with a stereo. Sounds and our ears simply do not exist that way. It's because that low level information is trumped by the actual music itself. However the scale tends to be helped by RF as well, which is often a problem. The panning location is helped too, which can often be soft without a natural environment; and so forth. It gives us qualities we may want, by a different means than you'd expect.

    The RF is "retrieving" lower information because it makes voltage growth occur, so the really tiny stuff gets bigger. This also has been measured in various forms, many times. Imagine feeding a tiny pure line through an audio piece of equipment, and grafting a signal to it. Now imagine feeding a fat line through it, that is a skinny line in the middle but looks fat because it has a lot of small RF on it that's high enough in frequency you can't really tell it isn't just a fat line... now graft a signal onto it. That is a complex thing, with many other elements, but should give you a sense of what occurs.

    There is nothing wrong with it. It is what it is, and many people enjoy it. The biggest issue is that most people don't understand that rfnoise isn't audible 99% of the time by itself, but the effect it has is... Everyone is under an extremely false belief that they "hear" the noise in the playback (rfnoise & enoise), and not the abberational effects of it (which is what you do hear). Because of that, it's nearly impossible to be truthful about what you're doing with lots of cables, grounding boxes, etc. People won't stand for it because conceptually it's too much for them. For them, RF means the radio in the car, and that's all.
    Interesting, just read a research piece, which purported to show that, people can pick differences between different dithering strategies and that stochastic algorithms are better tolerated by listeners
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