Thread: MSB Select II arrival

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    Quote Originally Posted by koalakoala View Post
    In case you haven't noticed, the new Reference Transport is added to the MSB website
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    beats $42k

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    beats $42k
    Nice, that's 77 years on Tidal THEN.... (18.5K). And the ability to listen to everything at Redbook res pretty much in an instant. Only saying.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by asiufy View Post
    Ha! I knew that was coming!
    If this transport beat a good server and/or an Ethernet card, I'm prepared to eat a healthy chunk of crow
    And following that there should be a controlled direct comparison with MQA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    And following that there should be a controlled direct comparison with MQA.
    Well, that can be done anytime, if one has an MQA-compatible DAC and a Tidal subscription, no?
    I've done several of those comparisons over here...
    I don't want to take this way too OT, but do you have any specific requirements so the comparison can be considered "controlled"?


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    Quote Originally Posted by asiufy View Post
    Well, that can be done anytime, if one has an MQA-compatible DAC and a Tidal subscription, no?
    I've done several of those comparisons over here...
    I don't want to take this way too OT, but do you have any specific requirements so the comparison can be considered "controlled"?


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    If the MSB Select II is MQA compatible, then I would compare an MQA file streamed on Tidal to the same music from a physical disk on the MSB transport and not have the listener(s) know which is which. Perhaps a friend doing the switching with a variety of music and at least two or three people doing the listening. I don't think anything more rigorous than that. I'd also try to have the transport and DAC on the same type of shelf or footers so those don't influence the outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    If the MSB Select II is MQA compatible, then I would compare an MQA file streamed on Tidal to the same music from a physical disk on the MSB transport and not have the listener(s) know which is which. Perhaps a friend doing the switching with a variety of music and at least two or three people doing the listening. I don't think anything more rigorous than that. I'd also try to have the transport and DAC on the same type of shelf or footers so those don't influence the outcome.
    Ah, got it now, transport x MQA, not just stream x MQA.
    Well, that can be done for sure once get one of those beauties in! We already have an order in for the transport, so it's looking good



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    Quote Originally Posted by asiufy View Post
    Ah, got it now, transport x MQA, not just stream x MQA.
    Well, that can be done for sure once get one of those beauties in! We already have an order in for the transport, so it's looking good



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    Yes, the suggestion is because of the comment up thread about the high quality of digital playback from a disk in the transport. You had commented a while back that you prefer the MQA playback to regular file, so it seems the next step would be to directly compare the transport/physical disk playback to the streaming/MQA file playback. Of course, some members might then be curious for Mike to compare the preferred digital medium to his analog.
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    Reference demo in Lithuania

    I found an interesting demo of the MSB Reference DAC with a Lithuania dealer. It was a fed by an 'optimised' Laptop via USB and pitched against the Audio Note DAC 2.1 (4,600 euros) and Audio Note CDT 3. I believe they also tried the UMT as well with the MSB DSC. The Audio Note won.

    What this tells us I have no idea. The AN DAC 2.1 which I know well, is not the most transparent DAC in the world, or is it the best Audio Note DAC either. I wonder if the horn hybrid speakers used were super sensitive and already very forward / detailed? Or was the demo biased? Anyway, read the review and see what you think of it. You can view it translated in Chrome by clicking the translate tab.

    Translation of part of the review here:

    True, during the interview, the Belgian spokesman Frank Vermeylen was calm as a Belgian. When comparing the MSB Reference DAC and the MSB The Data CD V CD with SAK Audio Note DAC 2.1x Signature (4600 Euro) and Audio Note CDT Three CDs, everything was clear from the start. Still, the belgium was calming me softly: MSB should warm up . Does not warm up? Then you blame the interlocking and power cables, etc. Do you know that sensing feeling when you are ashamed not for yourself but for the other? Finally, I offered to finish the circus and show what MSB Reference DAC really was and what it was worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astrostar59 View Post
    I found an interesting demo of the MSB Reference DAC with a Lithuania dealer. It was a fed by an 'optimised' Laptop via USB and pitched against the Audio Note DAC 2.1 (4,600 euros) and Audio Note CDT 3. I believe they also tried the UMT as well with the MSB DSC. The Audio Note won.

    What this tells us I have no idea. The AN DAC 2.1 which I know well, is not the most transparent DAC in the world, or is it the best Audio Note DAC either. I wonder if the horn hybrid speakers used were super sensitive and already very forward / detailed? Or was the demo biased? Anyway, read the review and see what you think of it. You can view it translated in Chrome by clicking the translate tab.

    Translation of part of the review here:

    True, during the interview, the Belgian spokesman Frank Vermeylen was calm as a Belgian. When comparing the MSB Reference DAC and the MSB The Data CD V CD with SAK Audio Note DAC 2.1x Signature (4600 Euro) and Audio Note CDT Three CDs, everything was clear from the start. Still, the belgium was calming me softly: MSB should warm up . Does not warm up? Then you blame the interlocking and power cables, etc. Do you know that sensing feeling when you are ashamed not for yourself but for the other? Finally, I offered to finish the circus and show what MSB Reference DAC really was and what it was worth.

    http://www.e-studio.lt/nuotykiai-tes...reference-dac/
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    Duplicate.
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