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    David, my reference was made in somewhat of a comparison to a situation years ago when a certain snowmobile manufacturer was insisting that 'their' brand of oil to be used in order to maintain the engine warranty even though other brands had oil that met spec. Simply put, when that happens the manufacturer becomes obligated to provide the oil !

    Thus my reference to the Spectral / MIT cable thing.
    Cheers - Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by twitch View Post
    David, my reference was made in somewhat of a comparison to a situation years ago when a certain snowmobile manufacturer was insisting that 'their' brand of oil to be used in order to maintain the engine warranty even though other brands had oil that met spec. Simply put, when that happens the manufacturer becomes obligated to provide the oil !

    Thus my reference to the Spectral / MIT cable thing.
    First of all, "oil" for an engine sounds much like a snake-oil argument and hardly a technical inevitability, secondly, MIT is not "their" but an independent brand, and thirdly, Spectral do provide their "Spectral"-branded MIT cables which theoretically speaking they could include along with their product for a price (if you take them by their word, it's as if that were fact anyhow - they do not make believe their products to be cheaper than they are misinforming the customer, on the contrary, all you ever hear is one must use the appropriate cable to prevent damage), if forced to do so, the only difference would be that we customers would additionally suffer from it in no longer being able to upgrade within the MIT (e.g. Oracle) line of cables. A "set price" might keep some customers from buying their product (but only customers who willingly ignore what they're being told all along), but the technical necessity for power amps can't be argued.

    But, to reiterate, Spectral isn't MIT, and it does appear they're conscious of pricing (e.g. Oracle Matrix 50 was one of three interconnects designed along with the second-to-latest and latest generation of Spectral amps and approved by Spectral, even so, they chose the more moderately priced HD 36 and HD 23 as UL-350III and UL-230III). I have little doubt that if they owned MIT, the cables would be priced more moderately to suit the pricing of their electronics (having said that, the latter have gone up noticeably in price for the latest generation, at least here in Europe, hardly an effect of the exchange rate).

    Personally, being a Spectral customer myself, I've always thought of electronics plus cabling as a "set price" for exactly this reason. What I do like about it is one doesn't misspend money trying to mix and match cables as with most other brands (been there, done that) - it effectively saves money to know what one needs (and really wants, as they're designed together) to get to achieve the intended result versus having to try and find out by trial and error.

    Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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    OK, so tell me......what is the 'appropriate cable' ? specs ?
    Cheers - Dave

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    OK, so tell me......what is the 'appropriate cable' ? specs ?
    I'm not a cable designer. Read this?

    http://www.mbl.de/wp-content/uploads...lifiers_EN.pdf

    Greetings from Switzerland, David.

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    In that paper, points 1 & 2 are important, while point 3 is incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    In that paper, points 1 & 2 are important, while point 3 is incorrect.
    Could you go into more detail? I've invariably been told that running low frequency cables in parallel with power cables, digital cables and/or loudspeaker cables is a no-go.

    Greetings from Switzerland, David.

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