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    Kronos keeps getting better

    This is my first. My business is in crop protection. Audio is only my hobby.

    Currently I own a Kronos Pro with Black Beauty arm and Airtight Opus1 cart. A few weeks ago I received a new power supply SCPS-1. Before I hook it up to the Pro, I had watched the product review by Peter B. in AVshowrooms. My expectation of this power supply was drawn by halving the positive comments Peter B. made in his review.

    The first five seconds I listened to the Pro with SCPS-1, my eyebrown raised. It sound way better than I expected. The improvement was everything Peter B. described in his review. I would like to add that this SCPS-1 is quite sensitive to grounding. Dont connect it to grounding devices. Louis Desjardins even recommends not to plug it to power conditioner. Just plug it to the wall. Normally I ground all my gears to a few Tripoints. This time I have to leave alone the Kronos.

    Yesterday Louis Desjardins visited me at my office. Btw my system is at my office. I thought that it was just gonna be a courtesey visit but he was kind enough to fine tuned the arm and cart for me. The result was a big smile on my face. What he did in addition was to replace the metal cup that holds the bearing that attached to the arm wand. This new bearing cup is ceramic coated if I am not mistaken. It is a tiny metal cup that should not cost more than a lunch. You can hear that the sound is more refine. It is noticeable but like all tweaks your ears get used to after a while.

    What's next. Louis showed me the prototype of his new arm board. It looks like an aluminum bonded with carbon composite on the surface. Looks good and a lot lighter than the arm base that came with the Pro. He said it improves sound much much more than the bearing cup he installed but not to the SCPS-1 extent. We didnt have time to try it. Given my experience of earlier upgrades, I believe him. Now I hesitate to switch the Black Beauty to my new SAT that will arrive next month.

    What I like most about Kronos is Louis business policy. I think the sound improvement his customers get from all upgrades combined is more than significant enough to launch another better model higher up which he could price way higher. But he chose to offer upgrades instead.

    Before he left, he also showed me pictures of another proto type. It was a tube phono stage. It looks really good. Polished aluminum with copper accents. He said he works this piece with a company that has a product listed in Stereopile recommended A+. So for Kronos fans, there is more to come.

    *** I am an inexperienced listener comparing to many people in this forum. My vocab of sound is very limited. I admire people who can put sounds into words. When I say this sound great or this is sound improvement I can only mean it sounds "closer" to "what I perceived" to be natural and real.

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    Hi Tango!

    I have a good idea of how amazing your system must be sounding, specially with the addition of that AirTight cartridge. That was a revelation! The SCPS-1 is indeed special, and Louis is indeed on the right path by offering incremental upgrades to its product, instead of just putting a new, slightly changed model out...

    Now I'm curious to see how the SAT is going to fit into an already impressive system


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    Welcome Tango,

    I know your Kronos Pro well because my good friend MadFloyd has one. I am also very curious about how the SAT arm will sound in your system. I have the AirTight Supreme which is excellent, but I would love to try the Opus. What is in the rest of your system? I am intrigued by the location of your system at your office. Do you have much time for listening there? Congratulations on a great analog front end.
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    Speakers: Magico Q3, Magico Mini II, Essentials: Jim Smith RoomPlay, 3 Vibraplanes, Dedicated circuits

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    Nice to hear about an excellent company that obviously cares about their customers!

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    Congratulations! A very nice viny front end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiufy View Post
    Hi Tango!

    I have a good idea of how amazing your system must be sounding, specially with the addition of that AirTight cartridge. That was a revelation! The SCPS-1 is indeed special, and Louis is indeed on the right path by offering incremental upgrades to its product, instead of just putting a new, slightly changed model out...

    Now I'm curious to see how the SAT is going to fit into an already impressive system


    cheers,
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    Alex,

    Music coming from BB w/ Opus in a proper set up is already a relavation as you said. I bought the SAT with Atlas SL to 1) see if the Pro could even leap further and max out 2) prove if the SAT is that good in the extent I shout "What the F_ck!!" like Mr. Fremer. This was before Louis came and showed the new arm base that cannot be used with SAT. Of course, he also Gave me "the" look, shaked his head and implied why I bother thinking of putting other arm on his table. You know Louis, he is very passionate of his products.

    I am not going to put the SAT in right away. I will see if Marc Gomez could swing by and do the set up for me. Set up is extremely crucial at this level. I admit I am inexperienced in setting up arm/cart. Marc said if you damage the bearing you are on your own. The one sent for a review by MonoandStereo a while back was damaged and they didnt get maximum performance he said. Once I received the SAT I will post the pic just for the heck of it. The Atlas SL is already in my hand.

    Have a good day,
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    Welcome Tango,

    I know your Kronos Pro well because my good friend MadFloyd has one. I am also very curious about how the SAT arm will sound in your system. I have the AirTight Supreme which is excellent, but I would love to try the Opus. What is in the rest of your system? I am intrigued by the location of your system at your office. Do you have much time for listening there? Congratulations on a great analog front end.

    Hello PeterA,

    I have a 2 yrs old son and spend most of my time at home with him. I am fortunate to be able to put a system in front of my desk at office. I play music all the time while I work. Sometime friends drop by after office hour and enjoy with me. My listening position in five meters away from my speakers. I am in the process of tuning my room at the moment. I dont want to post the pic of my room until it looks good..haha

    The rest of my system consists of a pair of Ayon SET mono bloc, Ayon Spheris Pre, Ayon Phono, Cessaro Gamma II horn, Acqua Formula Dac, JMF transport, etc. I use a lot of Ayon because they sound super good and I know and like Gerhard the owner of Ayon. Next month he will send me his new masterpiece pre amp the Qonquistador. He also customized his amp for me to better match my highly sensitive horns. Very nice guy.

    Try the Opus, PeterA. You will not regret.

    Have a good day,
    Tang

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    Yeah I tend to agree with Louis that the Kronos Pro + Black Beauty is such a good combination that in 99% of the cases, people really shouldn't look further, and I believe that about 95% of the orders for the Pro are actually bundled with the Black Beauty tonearm (or a similar number).

    But of course I understand that audiophilia, and specially analog, is a passion, and as such, different things strike people in different ways, so trying different cartridges and tonearms is always a lot of fun

    And you're right in not underestimating the importance of setup! A lot of folks do, and end up frustrated...


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    I love our KRONOS. Louis is awesome and is always there for support. The new power supply is fantastic!!!
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    Leif, nice photos, but I don't see any cables in the bottom picture. They must just disappear ;^)
    My system link on WBF: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showth...-Sublime-Sound
    Analog: SME 30/12, SME V-12, My Sonic Labs Signature Gold, AirTight Supreme, VDH Colibri Platinum, MINT LP protractor
    Electronics: Pass Labs XA160.5 amp, XP-22 preamp, XP-25 phono, Cables: Transparent REF XL MM2,
    Speakers: Magico Q3, Magico Mini II, Essentials: Jim Smith RoomPlay, 3 Vibraplanes, Dedicated circuits

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