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    Bass traps. Advice wanted.

    Who makes the best bass traps money can buy? No compromises, please. I'm interested only in the best!
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    ASC tube traps... bass traps that work low down and give you a combination of absorption and diffusion as well
    they work down to 40hz or so , if you want to go below that then use DSP
    http://www.acousticsciences.com/products/tube-trap

    Have a read here... look near the end of the article for the bass trapping section
    http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/theroom/1.html

    There is another way to smooth bass response and that is to use 3 or 4 subs
    http://seriousaudioblog.blogspot.co....-multiple.html
    This way allows you to control suckouts as well

    One of our members here , duke le jeune supplies a multisub setup for very little money
    http://www.audiokinesis.com/the-swar...-system-1.html
    http://www.theabsolutesound.com/arti...woofer-system/
    These can integrate with your RELS


    I would also recommend a miniDSP 2x4hd or a 4x10 if you want to integrate multiple subs .. even just for your rels .. they allow all sorts of adjustments , parametricss , delay , phase , gain , crossover , low pass .. all at your sitting position in real time
    Failing all that , DIRAC is also a great option to fix bass...
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    Quote Originally Posted by adyc View Post
    Are you saying these outperform ASC TubeTraps?
    Transport: Ultra High-End PC;
    DAC: Ayre DX-5DSD (modded);
    Preamp: ARC Reference Anniversary (modded beyond recognition);
    Power amps: Ayre MX-R Twenty (modded);
    Speakers: Monitor Audio PL300 (mercilessly modded);
    Subwoofers: a pair of REL Stentor III (radically modded);
    Cables: Audioquest Dragon & Hurricane, Wild Blue Yonder, Wild Wood.
    Power: dedicated line+a pair of AQ Niagara 5000AP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney Gold View Post
    ASC tube traps... bass traps that work low down and give you a combination of absorption and diffusion
    Rodney, are you saying ASC tube traps are beyond competition? And yes, I am only interested in the best of the best...
    Transport: Ultra High-End PC;
    DAC: Ayre DX-5DSD (modded);
    Preamp: ARC Reference Anniversary (modded beyond recognition);
    Power amps: Ayre MX-R Twenty (modded);
    Speakers: Monitor Audio PL300 (mercilessly modded);
    Subwoofers: a pair of REL Stentor III (radically modded);
    Cables: Audioquest Dragon & Hurricane, Wild Blue Yonder, Wild Wood.
    Power: dedicated line+a pair of AQ Niagara 5000AP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ayreman View Post
    Are you saying these outperform ASC TubeTraps?
    I have no experience of ASC tubetraps. But Modex plates work very well in my room. The listening room in Magico factory has installed a lot of Modex plates and Modex edge. Are you looking for broadband basstraps or narrow band basstraps? For narrow band basstraps, I suggest Modex module. You can customise the centre frequency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ayreman View Post
    Who makes the best bass traps money can buy? No compromises, please. I'm interested only in the best!
    IMHO you have to measure your room and then evaluate what is the best for your room. RPG products are some of the best, but you need to pick the proper ones in proper quantity - their bass traps are tuned e-g. the tuning frequencies available for Modex™ Module are 40, 50, 63, 80, 100 and 125Hz. Some others, as those from SMC can be tuned in place.

    Do you have space constraints? Most of the time size is the real problem in bass absorption.
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    It depends on what you want to do or fix?
    some more info would help
    A pic of your room would also be good

    I would also invest in a umik-1 ($75 from minidsp.com).. a measuring mic .. the software is free (REW) .. you need to know where the problem areas are.

    The modex is a limp membrane trap that needs some note sustenance to make it resonate in sympathy whereas a tube trap reacts instantly to any pressure variation and the areas of high pressure are at room boundaries and corners ... a 16/20" diameter tube trap will go low and its not a huge footprint

    The other plus is you get good diffusion or absorption from a tube trap , you rotate them to dial in what you want.
    Physical trapping will never deal with typical +10 db peaks in the low bass , I would investigate using DSP or using your 2 subs as node/suckout busters for this

    Move your listening chair back or forward in 1 ft increments .. often you arent sitting in the best place for bass
    Just remember you arent looking for flat bass .. nice sounding bass needs a lift below 100hz or so ..if it sounds good and tuneful and satisfying to you..then it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by adyc View Post
    I have no experience of ASC tubetraps. But Modex plates work very well in my room. The listening room in Magico factory has installed a lot of Modex plates and Modex edge. Are you looking for broadband basstraps or narrow band basstraps? For narrow band basstraps, I suggest Modex module. You can customise the centre frequency.
    My problem is 69-70Hz spot. The rest is not bad.

    Also, why module? Why not Modex Corner?
    Transport: Ultra High-End PC;
    DAC: Ayre DX-5DSD (modded);
    Preamp: ARC Reference Anniversary (modded beyond recognition);
    Power amps: Ayre MX-R Twenty (modded);
    Speakers: Monitor Audio PL300 (mercilessly modded);
    Subwoofers: a pair of REL Stentor III (radically modded);
    Cables: Audioquest Dragon & Hurricane, Wild Blue Yonder, Wild Wood.
    Power: dedicated line+a pair of AQ Niagara 5000AP.

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    what program are you using for playback?
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