The Proper Use of the Apostrophe

spiritofmusic

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I see our great leader is going to court to get upheld his ban on apostrophes from seven countries known to be at risk of using them inappropriately
He wants to make sure no rogue apostrophes enter the US and put everyone at risk from poor grammar
 

Ron Resnick

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My brother’s friend’s dogs (this refers to the dogs belonging to the friend of one brother).
My brother’s friends’ dogs (the dogs belonging to the friends of one brother).
My brothers’ friend’s dogs (the dogs belonging to the friend of more than one brother).
My brothers’ friends’ dogs (the dogs belonging to the friends of more than one brother).

It’s only the positioning of the apostrophes here that clarifies what you’re saying; the wording is otherwise exactly the same.

Yes! And each of your examples derives from possessiveness.
 

Ron Resnick

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or the proper use of its vs. it's.

That is an easy one: "It's" is a contraction if "it is."

It is an exception to the general use of apostrophes based on possessiveness.
 

spiritofmusic

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Gosh' , thi's t'hread rea'lly i's h'ard to' f'ollow
 

DaveC

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Plural acronyms should have an apostrophe as it avoids confusion so CD's is actually correct. :eek: 1980's is more obviously not correct.
 

GaryProtein

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I can tell there are some folks on here with a case of the apostrophe OCD's and/or OCDs.

IT'S CDO, not OCD.

All the letters must be in alphabetical order.
 

Ron Resnick

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In the sentence "Ok ,I am replacing a set of ESL with a set of very nice original Sophia's.." there is nothing possessive about Sophias going on, and so no apostrophe in Sophias is necessary.

In this sentence fragment: "can't wait for the first review's." review is plural but not possessive. An apostrophe there is completely wrong.
 

AZWink

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When to use a semicolon is what I want to know, Ron. I always get stuck between using a colon or semicolon. lol!

Dan
 

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My biggest personal gripe is "loose" or "loosing" when people mean "lose" or "losing". That one is becoming ubiquitous on the forums I frequent, and it's like nails on a blackboard for me. The apostrophe thing is certainly annoying, but not as bad to my mind as the your and you're issue, or the there, their and they're confusion.

While I'm ranting, the incorrect use of the word "revert" drives me batty. Yes yes, I know language changes and all that but I like rules dammit!!
 

Ron Resnick

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When to use a semicolon is what I want to know, Ron. I always get stuck between using a colon or semicolon. lol!

Dan

From Grammarbook.com:

Rule: Use a comma between two long independent clauses when conjunctions such as and, or, but, for, nor connect them.
Example: I have painted the entire house, but she is still working on sanding the floors.

Rule: If the clauses are both short, you may omit the comma.
Example: I painted and he sanded.

Rule: If you have only one clause (one subject and verb pair), you won’t usually need a comma in front of the conjunction.
Example: I have painted the house but still need to sand the floors.
This sentence has two verbs but only one subject, so it has only one clause.

Rule: Use the semicolon if you have two independent clauses connected without a conjunction.
Example: I have painted the house; I still need to sand the floors.

Rule: Also use the semicolon when you already have commas within a sentence for smaller separations, and you need the semicolon to show bigger separations.
Example: We had a reunion with family from Salt Lake City, Utah; Los Angeles, California; and Albany, New York.

Rule: A colon is used to introduce a second sentence that clarifies the first sentence.
Example: We have set this restriction: do your homework before watching television.
Notice that the first word of the second sentence is not capitalized. If, however, you have additional sentences following the sentence with the colon and they explain the sentence prior to the colon, capitalize the first word of all the sentences following the colon.

Rule: Use a colon to introduce a list when no introductory words like namely, for instance, i.e., e.g. precede the list.
Example: I need four paint colors: blue, gray, green, and red.
 

Ron Resnick

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My biggest personal gripe is "loose" or "loosing" when people mean "lose" or "losing". That one is becoming ubiquitous on the forums I frequent, and it's like nails on a blackboard for me. The apostrophe thing is certainly annoying, but not as bad to my mind as the your and you're issue, or the there, their and they're confusion.

While I'm ranting, the incorrect use of the word "revert" drives me batty. Yes yes, I know language changes and all that but I like rules dammit!!

I understand! How do some people misuse "revert"? (You made me nervous about "revert," but I checked the definition and I use "revert" correctly.)
 

Ron Resnick

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Dan,

I have difficulty with "that" versus "which."

I find it annoying to figure out when to use "comprise" versus "compose" versus "consist of."

Avoiding unnecessary apostrophes (general rule: if it is not possessive, then do not use an apostrophe) is easy compared to these questions, I think.
 

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I understand! How do some people misuse "revert"? (You made me nervous about "revert," but I checked the definition and I use "revert" correctly.)

I often get emails where people promise to "revert" to me, by which they mean they'll get back to me in due course. I appreciate that this usage is now so common that the meaning of the word is actually changing before our very eyes, but as far as I'm concerned this means the person is going to turn back into me by way of some kind of metamorphosis. Revert means to return to a previous state of being or thought or practice. The reality is that we really need a word which means what people think "revert" means, but I don't think there's a suitable alternative.
 

Ron Resnick

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The American Heritage Dictionary -- my personal authoritative reference -- agrees with you.

I have been using "revert" incorrectly. (The online dictionary I first checked approves of the incorrect usage.)
 

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A instructor once informed me I would be the death of the comma. Guilty as charged.

Here are a few words I find used improperly on regular basis.

Mute for moot

Renumeration for remuneration

Ensure, insure and assure
 

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