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    Very true!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce B View Post
    Look guys.. CES died when they switched dates with the AVN awards!!


    You have a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrey_t View Post
    I've been going for 16 years. It used to take us 2 full days to visit CES at Alexis Park, it took 3 hours this visit all the rooms this year. I think the real decline started with the move to the Venetian and when they clamped down on selling records.

    Very sad.
    It sounds like 3D.
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    <thumbs up>

    the show is first about industry customers, second about press. It is not nor has it ever been about end users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce B View Post
    Look guys.. CES died when they switched dates with the AVN awards!!
    That, I wasn't awarde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaphacts View Post
    <thumbs up>

    the show is first about industry customers, second about press. It is not nor has it ever been about end users.
    So, who goes there? Amir was there. Who else? And Scot Hull (the guy who wrote that article in the first post's link) sent someone else from Microsoft...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrey_t View Post
    I've been going for 16 years. It used to take us 2 full days to visit CES at Alexis Park, it took 3 hours this visit all the rooms this year. I think the real decline started with the move to the Venetian and when they clamped down on selling records.

    Very sad.
    16 years yields an interesting, short term perspective. Started attending CES in 1976.

    Actually it was the Venetian that resuscitated a dead CES. The AP was inefficient, out of the way, and sounded like ass. Had CEA not come up with a replacement for the AP, CES would have died years ago. Again this show is about the industry, not the end user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce B View Post
    Look guys.. CES died when they switched dates with the AVN awards!!
    Absolutely!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrey_t View Post
    I've been going for 16 years. It used to take us 2 full days to visit CES at Alexis Park, it took 3 hours this visit all the rooms this year. I think the real decline started with the move to the Venetian and when they clamped down on selling records.

    Very sad.
    This article agrees with you

    http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/ces...258f-162530809

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    Quote Originally Posted by metaphacts View Post
    16 years yields an interesting, short term perspective. Started attending CES in 1976.

    Actually it was the Venetian that resuscitated a dead CES. The AP was inefficient, out of the way, and sounded like ass. Had CEA not come up with a replacement for the AP, CES would have died years ago. Again this show is about the industry, not the end user.
    An interesting short term perspective, nice try. 16 years is long enough to see the total decline of the show.

    "Again this show is about the industry, not the end user." That's similar to what us UCLA fans say when our football team sucks: "well we're a basketball school anyway."

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