Page 9 of 9 FirstFirst 123456789
Results 81 to 85 of 85

Thread: Dartzeel NHB-18NS or ARC Ref 5 se?

  1. #81
    Member Sponsor Addicted to Best! MadFloyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Mass
    Posts
    2,013
    Thank you so much for that very articulate description. It seems you value the same things I do and I fully agree that piano is a great test. In the past I've owned the Ref 3 and Ref 5 and felt it was 'fluffy' sounding on piano - that it lacked the combination of weight & sparkle that a piano emits. I've also heard that the Ref 10 and 6 are better in this respect but until I hear it for myself I wouldn't count on it.

    I always wondered if the dartzeel would sound synthetic or non-organic in the way that many solid state designs do, but I'm guessing that's not the case.
    Speakers: Magico M-Project w/MPods Amplification: CAT JL7s (preamp and phono TBD)
    Analog: Kronos Pro Limited Edition / Black Beauty tonearm / Zyx Universe Premium, Ortofon A95
    Digital: Roon / dCS Vivaldi DAC/Upsampler
    Cables/Power: Kubala Sosna cables / Shunyata Denali 6000T, Sigma Zitron PC's / Furutech outlets
    Misc: Steve Blinn Designs rack & amp stands

  2. #82
    Addicted to Best! Cascais's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Portugal
    Posts
    222
    Quote Originally Posted by MadFloyd View Post
    Thank you so much for that very articulate description. It seems you value the same things I do and I fully agree that piano is a great test. In the past I've owned the Ref 3 and Ref 5 and felt it was 'fluffy' sounding on piano - that it lacked the combination of weight & sparkle that a piano emits. I've also heard that the Ref 10 and 6 are better in this respect but until I hear it for myself I wouldn't count on it.

    I always wondered if the dartzeel would sound synthetic or non-organic in the way that many solid state designs do, but I'm guessing that's not the case.
    The piano is an orchestra in itself with great dynamic range and combination of the tune and percussion and therefore a challenge to any component. The Ref 5 SE does a good job but does not compare with the Dart in reproducing the power and complexity of the instrument. Your guess is right about the Dart not sounding synthetic or harsh as some ss designs do, but it has been said that it combines the best qualities of tube and ss, and I can believe this.
    I wouldn't belong to any club that had me as a member - Groucho.

  3. #83
    Addicted to Best! Harlequin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Londinium
    Posts
    607
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank750 View Post
    Am I missing something in this comparison? Isn't the Dartzeel a $40k preamp?
    Hmmm....The RRP of the Dart in the UK is 34,000, close on three times the RRP of an Ref5se, a more realistic comparison would be with the Ref10.

  4. #84
    Addicted to Best! Cascais's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Portugal
    Posts
    222
    Harlequin: Realistic for whom? I was making a personal comparison having both preamps in my possession and trying to chose one over the other. Looks like the Ref 5 se will be up for sale.
    I wouldn't belong to any club that had me as a member - Groucho.

  5. #85
    Addicted to Best! Harlequin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Londinium
    Posts
    607
    Quote Originally Posted by Cascais View Post
    Harlequin: Realistic for whom? I was making a personal comparison having both preamps in my possession and trying to chose one over the other. Looks like the Ref 5 se will be up for sale.
    What!!! Oh I can't be bothered, enjoy your darTZeel.

Page 9 of 9 FirstFirst 123456789

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 47
    Last Post: 12-18-2016, 04:45 AM
  2. New NHB 18NS
    By Sencha in forum DartZeel Forum
    Replies: 171
    Last Post: 09-29-2016, 06:03 PM
  3. Compare ARC Ref 5SE with Dartzeel NHB-18NS
    By Cascais in forum Power Amplifiers and Preamplifiers Audio Forum
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: 06-19-2016, 07:35 AM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-31-2014, 10:06 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •