One other point that occurred to me is that peace and quiet is probably a big reason why people move to an area like that. So, it could be unsettling if after moving that instead of hearing birds singing you are being physically assulted with bass. 
Audiophile Unfriendly New Neighbor Moved In Last Month, Calls the Cops on Me
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Here's a solution,find another piece of property you like and tell your neighbor you will sell him your property for the cost of your relocation.
I'm still stuck over the db level: 150db? And wearing ear plugs so you don't hurt your ears? That said, for a host of reasons, I am on your side. Had the guy come to you and asked about coming to a solution and worked something out, that would have been one thing. So as long as it is not illegal, keep doing what you are doing and maybe THEY will move!
Cautionary note: given he owns a martial arts business, I would, at all costs, avoid physical confrontation
Cautionary note: given he owns a martial arts business, I would, at all costs, avoid physical confrontation
Mark, Really nice test bench you have there! Any pics of your system? Would love to see those subs/amps.....thx
I must have overlooked that last quoted line. Why do your neighbors have to "conform" to your way of life? Seems to me that they have as much right to peace and quiet as you do to play your stereo loudly. Snooping around gathering intel on him is not that great an idea as I bet he has some damn good connections with the powers to be in your general area and if he accuses you of stalking, watch out. Declaring war on those with deeper pockets won't end well for you. You think he is an a-hole. I have no doubt that he feels the same way about you and your Trump sign. Rather than declare war, I would suggest dialogue. As someone who has some experience with local government, I can assure you that your complaints about not being able to play your system at ear splitting levels will not find a receptive audience or any sympathy. You need to find some middle ground here.
Mark there any number of rock musicians who have damaged their hearing beyond repair through long and close exposure to very loud music. Roger Daltrey for example recently admitted that he was as deaf as a post.
I can't think of a worse fate for an audiophile!
I can't think of a worse fate for an audiophile!
Did the same thing. ASC window plugs or other window shutters all over my listening room. But I never listen above 95 dBa (97 dBa max on rare orchestral climaxes) because I don't want to damage my ears:
http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/loudness.html
For rock I don't go beyond 90 dBa because it's continuous level. Sounds plenty loud with the impact (not just bass) my system has.
150 dB, sound a quarter mile down the road? That's crazy. No wonder the neighbor complains.
..so I assume your wife is also either a "bass pig" or deaf? I also assume she's given up on soufflés..
An alternate point if view of the neighbor is he might be saying to himself "why the hell would I want to talk with a neighbor who thinks its OK to play music so loud it can be heard 1/4 mile away?"
I live in a rural area where sound travels, and deal with the occasional party being held with music or PA loud enough to make my evening suck. Never fun. Fortunately only happens a few times during summer months. 150dB within a 1/4 mile in a remote area would make it hard to ignore and I would consider 'unreasonable volume'. Now that you have neighbors you can't expect them to accept your music volume if it interferes with them hearing each other in their own home.
You also have the right to flail your arms about wildly, but that right stops when your hand reaches my nose—unless my nose is on your property, in which case it would be my responsibilty to move my nose back to my side of the line. But if you hand crosses the property line and hits my nose then the responsibility is yours.
If someone built a house next to your 1/2 acre lot you might well be liable if your music was heard at hearing damaging volumes (@115db, this is about 30 seconds). Someone with financial resources and good attorneys could get a restraining order easily if they recorded your volume at ear damaging levels.
Unfortunatly for you, the responsibility will be yours to either lower the volume or sound proof your home.
I live in a rural area where sound travels, and deal with the occasional party being held with music or PA loud enough to make my evening suck. Never fun. Fortunately only happens a few times during summer months. 150dB within a 1/4 mile in a remote area would make it hard to ignore and I would consider 'unreasonable volume'. Now that you have neighbors you can't expect them to accept your music volume if it interferes with them hearing each other in their own home.
You also have the right to flail your arms about wildly, but that right stops when your hand reaches my nose—unless my nose is on your property, in which case it would be my responsibilty to move my nose back to my side of the line. But if you hand crosses the property line and hits my nose then the responsibility is yours.
If someone built a house next to your 1/2 acre lot you might well be liable if your music was heard at hearing damaging volumes (@115db, this is about 30 seconds). Someone with financial resources and good attorneys could get a restraining order easily if they recorded your volume at ear damaging levels.
Unfortunatly for you, the responsibility will be yours to either lower the volume or sound proof your home.
the Elk do get a bit testy (and yesterday morning blocked the road outside my gate) sometimes outside the barn when I'm hitting those deep bass notes........
what a great site that is Mike.
I think we can all agree that this thread might strike a different nerve with different people.
I think we can all agree that this thread might strike a different nerve with different people.
There's no way in hell 150db is the volume level outside the house. Not even close.
I believe the question unanswered, still, is how loud are the neighbours hearing it? Would they hear it if they had a fan on? etc..
IMO it's sad if politics got this all started in a bad direction. If that's the only way you're going to judge each other you two deserve the war.
I believe the question unanswered, still, is how loud are the neighbours hearing it? Would they hear it if they had a fan on? etc..
IMO it's sad if politics got this all started in a bad direction. If that's the only way you're going to judge each other you two deserve the war.
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Thats what i call free standing mike , may be you can play some loud elk/deer burling and they will all gather round the barn
Bass pigg i think your re stretching it too far , getting the biggest gun might be the solution in the US .
If in europe somebody would play the stereo at those levels , the equipment would be confiscated by the police
Bass pigg i think your re stretching it too far , getting the biggest gun might be the solution in the US .
If in europe somebody would play the stereo at those levels , the equipment would be confiscated by the police
This is pretty close to what I think.... you f&*k with this guy and it's very likely you're going to lose. Physically or otherwise, lol. So, I'd take the route of apologizing to him and working with him. There's no reason you can't play loud Friday/Saturday nights or whatever, but come to an agreement or face the possibility you won't ever get to play loud without penalties. Why don't you show up at his house with a pie and an apology? Welcome him to the neighborhood and eventually bring up your audio hobby and when it would be ok to play loud.
You moved to the country but only bought 1/2 acre... sorry but you can only control what you own. If you wanted to make sure that didn't happen you should have bought the new neighbor's property yourself. I moved to the mountains myself in '99, lived at 9000 ft with a great view of the continental divide. There was one spot we'd go to shoot guns in the forest, but someone bought property nearby and asked us to stop. I didn't like it but most of us did stop, because I didn't buy the property and the truth is it wasn't fair to the landowner. The spot got shut down eventually by the USFS to defend the landowner's right to peace and quiet. I agree with that decision. You may not but be aware you're in the minority and nobody is going to have sympathy for your plight.
Lots of crazy people live in the mountains. I can totally understand not wanting to approach you about the issue, no telling what people will do these days. Too many nutcases, too many hard drugs, it's sad but that's what it is.
As far as the Hillary sign, it means nothing. We don't have the information to make reasonable decisions these days, and neither do you. Hillary could be a saint or a criminal, I have no idea and neither do you. Trump though, is obviously a con-man but might have been the right choice... I doubt it but I don't know and neither do you. Your neighbor probably has no clue about Hillary either. It's simply human nature to make decisions based on whatever "facts" we think we have, however misguided. I find keeping an open mind to be much easier. If you're going to judge over politics then IDK what to say... All Trump supporters aren't racists and all Hillary supporters aren't communists. Give people the benefit of the doubt.
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