Goldmund Apologue installation just completed on Long Island, NY

Folsom said:

I heard one a little lower on the totem pole. But their sound is carried throughout their different units, utilizing the same things up and down the scale.

You're welcome to relist all the DSP, blah blah's, but I don't get impressed that easily. In fact there's more of a chance to have problems as you complicate things. It isn't always so, but it's always inherent as possible. Also a high price tag doesn't always equate to better sound. It seems very easy to want to assume that to be true when the price tag is high enough to make anyone accept that fact it's not a small amount of money even if it's a small fraction of what they have.

Anyone that wants the Apologue (and can) should get it. It has aesthetics and Goldmund has nailed the luxury side of a luxury hobby. But for someone willing to spend the time and energy there's other avenues that will be more rewarding as you land exactly what you like and separate the very good from exceptional. But the time, energy, and money are extensive when you compare the alternative of Goldmund where you buy and then listen knowing it's going to be better than most stuff you would have cycled through your listening room.

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If you personally have not had a demo of how you can adjust the Apologues bass, mid and high frequency output to suit a client's room and preferences then I would invite you, if interested,to have someone who familiar with the setup and adjustments that are available to give you a demo.

You can adjust bass, mid and treble output gain, while still maintaining time, phase and amplitude correction, in real time via a computer connected to the system processor/controller. This all allows complete room or customer preference customization.

You WOULD NEVER place a traditional speaker the size of the Apologue in a room as small as in the video.

The Apologue is different.

I really did not have or will ever have any intention of trying to impress you. I am not trying to impress anyone here. Just thought I would share. There are people that are interested in just discussing different approaches. At a certain level, imho, it's just different vs. better. That's to me, you might have different reasoning, probably do....cool.

Can't argue and pretty much agree with everything you say, except that I never said or do I think that spending more $$$ produce better sound. An set up expert can easily make a $20K system outperform, maybe other than scale, a $1M system. Of course that would be putting the $20K system in a well treated room, with a few "tweeks" and with excellent system set up, vs. an expensive system in an ok, but not even good room and less than premium set-up.

Different folks acquire different things for different reasons. An equation that works for one person most of the time, would not work for someone else.

For instance, I personally listen to streaming Tidal via Aurender/MSB as my source vs. DSD/high res pcm files, Transport, Vinyl or Tape. Tidal and it's selection of music "blows me away", it's a personal thing. Tidal streaming is sonically is last on my list between the other sources BUT Tidal sounds SO GOOD to me that I don't care if something sounds better. It works for me and I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks about how I enjoy my music.

With equipment, everyone does not choose their systems based on your personal criteria or forum members criteria. Actually most of my Goldmund customers are very accomplished and have already set the criteria according to their personal situation. For many of these purchasers Goldmund is a GREAT fit.

You really have to understand someone's circumstances to fully understand why they would choose one option vs. another. It's not always about just how good something sounds. People's homes, rooms, family members, financial situation all are variables that come into play when choosing an audio system.

btw, even though there is a Goldmund "house sound", I would like to have this discussion with you after you heard a properly set up Apololgue system. There is a reason that the price goes up as you go up the line. Basically what you get over the smaller models is scale, spl possible levels and bass extension - by adding the Apologue bass modules, just as adding any top quality subs to a system....it changes everything.

LL21 said:

already a new flagship replacement for the Goldmund Apologue Anniversary?

http://www.monoandstereo.com/2017/01/goldmund-new-flagship-speaker-is-coming.html#more

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The Apologue Anniversary was a special 25 unit run celebrating 25 years since the original Apologue was introduced and was exhibited at MOMA (Museum of Modern Art) in Manhattan. As of December 24 of the Anniversary models had been sold, not sure if the last one is spoken for at this point???

The full Epilogue stack which was in production for over 10 years was the actual normally released Goldmund flagship for the last decade.

There are already customers asking for pricing and are interested in the new flagship model even before they have seen anything further than what was announced on Mono and Stereo.

f1eng said:

I have had a Goldmund system for many years.
I am not one for changing equipment much, too much time wasted!
I have had Epilogs since they were first released. I have yet to hear better speakers.
My Mimesis 20, 22 and 29.4s are "resting" but I am enjoying the Epilogs as I type!

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I have about 50 Goldmund customers that I have had the pleasure of working with over the last 14 years that I have been representing Goldmund in the US. Most of them buy their systems and then just keep them. They don't upgrade, but they do pretty much all call me occasionally talking about music and how much they enjoy it on their systems. Almost none of them are on any audio forum.

bonzo75 said:

I think forumites are 10% of those OT people who like to indulge in another part of the hobby, discussing and swapping. Having a system like Goldmund actually means that part of the hobby of shifting gear will be less.

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Hey Ked, yes, of course Goldmund systems are NOT for everyone for sure, but Goldmund customers are very content I can verify that.

bonzo75 said:

True. Btw, people on this forum are seldom contented

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I understand as I am one of them And I like forums too

LL21 said:

Thanks! Please post information about the new flagship when you are allowed...would be very interested to learn more.

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Will do, but I think it will quite a while yet before there is any new information.