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    Kuzma Car Cartridges

    Hi. Anyone have any direct experiences with Kuzma's newish line of cartridges? I'm considering a car40 or car50 for my 4 point and I'm wondering if the large jump in price is worthwhile.

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    Fremer reviews the 6k car50 and 13k car60 cartridges in this month's Stereophile.

    To say he was underwhelmed seems nice. Bland, inoffensive, softened transient attack, lack of slam or bass grip.

    I will give it to Fremer, he writes in reviews how he hears it- and he loves Kuzma tonearms.
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    I have a Kuzma CAR 40, although it is not currently mounted on my Stabi Ref/313 Ref VTA (I prefer my VDH Black Beauty). But the CAR 40 is an excellent cartridge which I could easily live with. I find it very dynamic, full sounding, with deep bass and good tonal colour. Obviously, this is the opposite of Fremer's comments, for which I have no explanation. It is a very heavy cartridge and could have resulted from a tonearm mismatch, although in Fremer's case that seems unlikely. He does seem to have a preference for lean cartridges with highlighted top ends - ie Lyras - and the Kuzma definitely doesn't sound like a Lyra. I like mine a lot and will probably use it after my VDH.

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    Interestingly Fremer backtracks on his comments on the Kuzma cartridges in the latest Stereophile. Or rather, he repeats them, but says that (in essence) because he prefers a more analytical Lyra type of sound, the Kuzma cartridges did not appeal to him, but for someone who likes a different type of sound, the Kuzma cartridges are very good. They then get a Class A rating in the same issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rossb View Post
    Interestingly Fremer backtracks on his comments on the Kuzma cartridges in the latest Stereophile. Or rather, he repeats them, but says that (in essence) because he prefers a more analytical Lyra type of sound, the Kuzma cartridges did not appeal to him, but for someone who likes a different type of sound, the Kuzma cartridges are very good. They then get a Class A rating in the same issue.
    Iím a little bothered by the whole thing. In a way I would have preferred Fremer simply leaving it go with negative-ish review. How is it a cartridge he doesnít like gets a Class A designation? Did anyone else at the magazine listen to it and disagree with Fremer? Or did Franc Kuzma call up Fremer, tell him his opinion is wrong, and Fremer said ďOK youíre right, even though I donít like it, itís a great cartridge and itís Class A worthy.Ē???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benanton View Post
    I’m a little bothered by the whole thing. In a way I would have preferred Fremer simply leaving it go with negative-ish review. How is it a cartridge he doesn’t like gets a Class A designation? Did anyone else at the magazine listen to it and disagree with Fremer? Or did Franc Kuzma call up Fremer, tell him his opinion is wrong, and Fremer said “OK you’re right, even though I don’t like it, it’s a great cartridge and it’s Class A worthy.”???
    Politics and keeping Kuzma happy.

    Most people who read Stereophile on a regular basis are aware of Fremers musical bias and that is for an open neutral sound.

    However, one that just looks at the yearly recommended products seeing a 14k Kuzma cartridge in class B is entirely different .
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    14k$ kuzma cartridge??
    Why??
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    Fremer was kind enough to do some sound clips so you can get a better idea:
    https://www.analogplanet.com/content...-do-you-prefer

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    I think that's more about self-justification than kindness.

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