Lampizator Golden Gate Balanced Playing DSD256 and DSD512

Audiophile Bill

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Hi Bill, have you posted the review yet? I was expecting that. :)

Hi Ferrox,

Not yet my friend but will be fairly soon. Hopefully in next few weeks.

Cheers,

Bill
 

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This is the procedure: http://www.amanero.com/howto.htm

Also your Linux will need to be patched. You can follow the issue here especially once firmware is released: https://github.com/lintweaker/xmos-native-dsd/issues/12

Thanks bibo01. It's too high-tech for me to do it myself. According to Auralic, the Aries can stream native DSD256 via Linux. But Amanero has not come out with new firmware to allow Linux stream native DSD256 or DSD512, only for Windows is available the moment. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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Thanks bibo01. It's too high-tech for me to do it myself. According to Auralic, the Aries can stream native DSD256 via Linux. But Amanero has not come out with new firmware to allow Linux stream native DSD256 or DSD512, only for Windows is available the moment. Correct me if I'm wrong.

You are correct.

Possibly, when a new Amanero firmware is available, it will be one's DAC producer who will update it.
 

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Anyone heard the GG with 512 yet per chance?

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Anyone heard the GG with 512 yet per chance?

Cheers

I have not but I am thinking about sending my GG back to Poland for a few updates. One of the possibilities is dsd 512. Talked about it with Wisnon; not sure if it is a really wortwhile feature. As far as I know there are no native dsd 512 files available so it is (only) about upsampling. Do we think that upsampling everything to say dsd 256 or dsd 512 make files sound better or is playing files in their native configuration the best way to go?
 

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I have not but I am thinking about sending my GG back to Poland for a few updates. One of the possibilities is dsd 512. Talked about it with Wisnon; not sure if it is a really wortwhile feature. As far as I know there are no native dsd 512 files available so it is (only) about upsampling. Do we think that upsampling everything to say dsd 256 or dsd 512 make files sound better or is playing files in their native configuration the best way to go?

Hi Rudolph,

On a Lampi I am not totally sure at this point. With the original dsd engine and importantly PCM engine, I found the delta between the 2 large and thus upsampling to dsd was the way for me back then. When the PCM r2r versions appeared, PCM was profoundly uplifted and virtually on a par with some dsd (not obviously the great dsd recordings that are virtually unparalleled in digital IMHO).

That said, having spent a lot of time now reviewing the SGM server with T+A dac, I can 100% say that the performance of the T+A is monumentally uplifted versus no SGM - this was all @ 512. Tidal to 512 was very much an experience.

Alas I was only able to upsample to double dsd on my GG due to an issue but my GG returns today with 512, just a shame the SGM is now back with new owner. The SGM to double dsd on GG delta was less than the SGM to T+A delta at most rates - i.e. The gains with upsampling on T+A were much larger than the gains on GG.

The technical question for me is whether there is something about different dac topologies that lend themselves more happy to powerful upsampling versus native. That said, whilst other reviewers have stated the r'aison detre of the SGM is the ability to upsample to 512, this is IMHO nonsense. A great server like SGM can perform very well using much lower sampling rates or none. I know of some Total Dac customers experiencing tremendous gains with SGM but not upsampling to high rates at all.
 

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Bill,

I expect the V2 R2R engine and the Superclocked USB will obviate the need to upsample for Lampi owners.

I agree, a great Server like the SGM will make Mp3 sound wonderful.

I can tell you that my Pal PhiliAc has an Aurender W20 and says its wonderful, BUT he also has a Lampi Komputer and says THAT beats his Aurender! I want to get his reaction when he finally gets the Superclock upgrade...
 

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Bill,

I expect the V2 R2R engine and the Superclocked USB will obviate the need to upsample for Lampi owners.

I agree, a great Server like the SGM will make Mp3 sound wonderful.

I can tell you that my Pal PhiliAc has an Aurender W20 and says its wonderful, BUT he also has a Lampi Komputer and says THAT beats his Aurender! I want to get his reaction when he finally gets the Superclock upgrade...

Custodian just posted that he sold off his dCS CD player because he prefers his Aurender S10 and has now got a W20 into his Vivaldi dac
 

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The technical question for me is whether there is something about different dac topologies that lend themselves more happy to powerful upsampling versus native. That said, whilst other reviewers have stated the r'aison detre of the SGM is the ability to upsample to 512, this is IMHO nonsense. A great server like SGM can perform very well using much lower sampling rates or none. I know of some Total Dac customers experiencing tremendous gains with SGM but not upsampling to high rates at all.

The best sound I heard in your system is when the Aries streamed natively to PCM with the 242s. I think you will agree that too. We didn't get that when we met with Marc and then you recollected that it is possibly because the default setting for PCM was to upsample up to 384, or it was possibly because the attenuators were mistakenly left in in the RCA jacks.
 

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Bill,

I expect the V2 R2R engine and the Superclocked USB will obviate the need to upsample for Lampi owners.

I agree, a great Server like the SGM will make Mp3 sound wonderful.

I can tell you that my Pal PhiliAc has an Aurender W20 and says its wonderful, BUT he also has a Lampi Komputer and says THAT beats his Aurender! I want to get his reaction when he finally gets the Superclock upgrade...

When is the superclock coming?
 

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Bill, how would you describe the differences between GG and T+A overall when both are being fed optimally?
Or are you covering that in your upcoming review?
Your guests seem to differ in this regard, would like to know your personal opinion.
 

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