Tad reference 1

SCAudiophile

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Definitely agree...they are amazing speakers; mine have a little over 360 hours on them and they have opened up and are showing what makes them world class every time I hit "play"!
 

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Tad is only getting stronger. The new ME1 is the most affordable speaker to offer the TAD sound so I expect it to do very well for them.

I bought the R1 not too long ago and I take heart in knowing its a design that has stood the test of time. Im not too keen on spending big money on companies that update their products every 6 months.. a la Magico

My thoughts exactly.
 

SCAudiophile

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My thoughts exactly.

Agreed....The R1s, CR1s and soon to include the ME1 is a best approach once & done line of speakers. I have a lot of respect for many other brands of speakers, pre-amps, amps, etc...out there but when I see many of them continue to roll out new models and applaud them as the best they've ever done, only to be followed 6-12 months later by more of the same, I always wonder about investing in such a line. Beyond the obvious devaluation of the prior models and undermining the investments of their -1 revision customers, I have shy'ed away from buying such speakers or components as I would not like the feeling that 'the next great revision' is just around the corner; not that there is not real innovation in the newer models, but that as an audio nut, it would leave me obsessing about spending even more well before it's time to do so. Don't get me wrong, I've upgraded transports, DACs, pre-amps, etc...in the lines I favor but the prior revisions easily gave me 6-8 years of peace of mind before a huge uptick in performance or sound came out.... Again, FWIW.
 

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Immense speakers; very capable when we used them at T.H.E Show in 2014, although we did need to lean them back a bit to tame a slightly upfront HF, and by Sunday they were sounding very good indeed. Great off axis, as were the CR1's we used also, but the REF 1's were in another league in the bass.

Congratulations on the re-marriage!



You can see in this image that they are tilted back more than the normal spikes would allow, we had to be a bit creative..
 

SCAudiophile

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Immense speakers; very capable when we used them at T.H.E Show in 2014, although we did need to lean them back a bit to tame a slightly upfront HF, and by Sunday they were sounding very good indeed. Great off axis, as were the CR1's we used also, but the REF 1's were in another league in the bass.

Congratulations on the re-marriage!



You can see in this image that they are tilted back more than the normal spikes would allow, we had to be a bit creative..

I have a very similar setup using Stillpoints ULTRA5 footers which are massive on the bottom of my Ref1 MkIIs. Puts the tweeter back a bit more than the flat bases of R1 on carpet.
 

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SC, that's the better option for long term use in my opinion, I always get better sound using some sort of footer such as the Cerabases etc.
 

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Immense speakers; very capable when we used them at T.H.E Show in 2014, although we did need to lean them back a bit to tame a slightly upfront HF, and by Sunday they were sounding very good indeed. Great off axis, as were the CR1's we used also, but the REF 1's were in another league in the bass.

Congratulations on the re-marriage!



You can see in this image that they are tilted back more than the normal spikes would allow, we had to be a bit creative..

I remember this system well. IMHO, it was the best of show that year. The TAD1's were totally full range. As Paul stated, they were in a different league to the CR1's. I also particularly liked the TT in play, if I remember correctly, it was some version of a classic Denon ( perhaps Paul can help out here).
This TT was truly superb sounding and anchored the system well. Oh, the stands weren't too bad either...:rolleyes:
 

SCAudiophile

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SC, that's the better option for long term use in my opinion, I always get better sound using some sort of footer such as the Cerabases etc.

Thank you....they are great sonically and tighten up the R1 even more than its default options; aesthetically they also look great which is a bonus. Have a great day!

This R1 show system from 2014 must have sounded amazing from all I've seen in the photo (components, etc...)
 

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I remember this system well. IMHO, it was the best of show that year. The TAD1's were totally full range. As Paul stated, they were in a different league to the CR1's. I also particularly liked the TT in play, if I remember correctly, it was some version of a classic Denon ( perhaps Paul can help out here).
This TT was truly superb sounding and anchored the system well. Oh, the stands weren't too bad either...:rolleyes:

Hi Davey, yes, that TT is really something else, it is one of Masataka Tsuda's rebuilds of the Denon DP3000 that he treats as his hobby :) It is taken to the max under the skin with new circuit boards, sapphire bearings ext PSU etc. Cart was the My Sonic Emininent iirc, Denon tonearm. All sounded very natural, and I do remember your frequent visits ;-)

SC, as Davey said above, it did pretty well..
 

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The TAD R1 MkIIs are truly amazing speakers; every time I hit play, regardless of material, I am shown music and my collection as I've never fully heard them before. Thanks to everyone else here who recommended them. I'm kind of speechless beyond the "OMFG.." phase about how good they sound and the inner detail + so many other aspects of how they perform!!!
 

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The TAD R1 MkIIs are truly amazing speakers; every time I hit play, regardless of material, I am shown music and my collection as I've never fully heard them before. Thanks to everyone else here who recommended them. I'm kind of speechless beyond the "OMFG.." phase about how good they sound and the inner detail + so many other aspects of how they perform!!!


If you have the room to place these ( fairly big IF) then I believe the TAD reference 1's are some of the best speakers extant. Certainly would be on my short list, along with the Vivid GiyaG1's and Spirits and the YG Sophia's.
 

cannata

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Tad is only getting stronger. The new ME1 is the most affordable speaker to offer the TAD sound so I expect it to do very well for them.

I bought the R1 not too long ago and I take heart in knowing its a design that has stood the test of time. Im not too keen on spending big money on companies that update their products every 6 months.. a la Magico

Sure, better to buy a product that has not been updated for 10 years:rolleyes:
 

cannata

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TAD products stand the test of time.



Actually, not quite. TAD , has been sold, or/and split from Pioneer, and from what I heard, not a real thing anymore (without Andrew Johns, that is now with ELAC, there is not much there anyway).
Perhaps an update or two would have made a difference ;)
 

Bobbi

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I'm sorry but I don't really understand what your saying.

I agree a few updates may be useful. A TAD phono stage would be nice.

Considering the engineering and build quality of TAD gear I still stand by my comment that TAD products do stand the test of time. I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary.

Considering the price outplayed for high end stereo these days it's a quality I value highly.
 

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TAD's design is still excellent and will be until new technology makes all existing speakers obsolete.

The Ref series Be midrange and tweeter are arguably the best drivers in existence.
 

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TAD's design is still excellent and will be until new technology makes all existing speakers obsolete.

The Ref series Be midrange and tweeter are arguably the best drivers in existence.

+1 on all this and supporting comments (for TAD R1s) below; I'd rather own a speaker that whose design has been stable and judged the best possible from that vendor at a given level (R1s) for several years and then hear the proof every time I hit play than to buy a 'best' speaker from another manufacturer and see new models pop out every 6-9 months giving me the feeling my investment should have waited, will continuously devalue rapidly over time due to the constant release of new models, they weren't really 'done' or 'at the best levels', etc...The latter screams 'plan to maximize' not 'plan to maximize user value and satisfaction in products purchase'...

Andrew Jones leaving TAD and change of leadership is an event for sure but it's more of a milestone than some tragic thing. My R1s, shipped last December prove the team that is left behind knows how to build one hell of a speaker (from a great design). A team is NOT about 1 guy...TAD is proving that today. Perhaps now that the predominant ego and voice is out of the room, the rest of the team will get the kudos they deserve.
 

cannata

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+1 on all this and supporting comments (for TAD R1s) below; I'd rather own a speaker that whose design has been stable and judged the best possible from that vendor at a given level (R1s) for several years and then hear the proof every time I hit play than to buy a 'best' speaker from another manufacturer and see new models pop out every 6-9 months giving me the feeling my investment should have waited, will continuously devalue rapidly over time due to the constant release of new models, they weren't really 'done' or 'at the best levels', etc...The latter screams 'plan to maximize' not 'plan to maximize user value and satisfaction in products purchase'...

Andrew Jones leaving TAD and change of leadership is an event for sure but it's more of a milestone than some tragic thing. My R1s, shipped last December prove the team that is left behind knows how to build one hell of a speaker (from a great design). A team is NOT about 1 guy...TAD is proving that today. Perhaps now that the predominant ego and voice is out of the room, the rest of the team will get the kudos they deserve.

We all like to tell ourselves stories we like… "Milestone", LOL. Without AJ and Pioneer TAD, unfortunately, is just a brand .
I am sure that nothing is wrong with your speakers, whatever they are, but claiming that what you have can’t be improved, is ridicules.
 

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