Vinyl recorded to R2R
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That is an excellent question. I do not know what the answer is -- let's let the experts weigh in -- but I sure hope the answer is not "better."
(Playing an LP and recording it to digital makes no sense to me whatsoever (except, of course, for more convenient subsequent playback).That is an excellent question. I do not know what the answer is -- let's let the experts weigh in -- but I sure hope the answer is not "better."
Bill records his vinyl to digital and then streams it through the Lampi (wink). On mooks (double wink)
I have also been searching here for a thread that member me started several years ago on this subject and it was his position as well that anything recorded to tape always sounded better than the vinyl or digital file from where it originated
Uh-oh!
But how can that be? (I like to think that we like LP for reasons other than the theory that the LP playback process adds pleasant distortions.)
What does Bruce B say?
Uh-oh!
But how can that be? (I like to think that we like LP for reasons other than the theory that the LP playback process adds pleasant distortions.)
What does Bruce B say?
Anything recorded to tape will take on the properties of the tape.... like the good harmonics and tape saturation, if it was recorded hot enough. Though, it will still include the bad things inherent to LP playback as well such as the clicks/pops, w/f and inner groove distortion. Surely it will be different, but are you willing to trade the good properties of tape with the bad properties of LP playback? Would they offset? I just don't see it.
I know Jeff at J-Corder records CD's on to tape for his tape demo at shows. The only digital I have purposely recorded to tape has been test tones.
Different yes, but not better. At less with my A80, that has standard recording amplifiers.
And that as it's should be. I remember there such a thread in another forum ...
A copy can be preferred to an original, it cannot be better. That is an impossibility.
Unless you define precisely what means better in this case, we are ready to start an endless debate ...
Unless you define precisely what means better in this case, we are ready to start an endless debate ...
You "better" believe it..
In my viewpoint :
1. transfer vinyl to reel tape
- sound almost the same as source , not better than source
- most benefit is - borrow my friend's treasure vinyl (such as Bluenote first press RVG) and transfer to tape. It safe me a lot of money.
2. transfer vinyl to digital files
- I , as a part time audio reviewer , use digital transfer to compare different setup for the readers. Such as compare review turntable with my reference turntable , same cart , same phono stage.
- For LP software review , I digitized my vinyl to files for reader to hear what I review , what it sound like , how good they are.
I uploaded my files to soundcloud. Here is my main channel : www.soundcloud.com/emt930
We can make a playlist on a specific hardware review such as this : https://soundcloud.com/emt930/sets/kuzma-xl-review
My main problem is some songs were deleted from license.
1. transfer vinyl to reel tape
- sound almost the same as source , not better than source
- most benefit is - borrow my friend's treasure vinyl (such as Bluenote first press RVG) and transfer to tape. It safe me a lot of money.
2. transfer vinyl to digital files
- I , as a part time audio reviewer , use digital transfer to compare different setup for the readers. Such as compare review turntable with my reference turntable , same cart , same phono stage.
- For LP software review , I digitized my vinyl to files for reader to hear what I review , what it sound like , how good they are.
I uploaded my files to soundcloud. Here is my main channel : www.soundcloud.com/emt930
We can make a playlist on a specific hardware review such as this : https://soundcloud.com/emt930/sets/kuzma-xl-review
My main problem is some songs were deleted from license.
I did some vinyl to R2R transfers of the 45RPM Classics Records reissues. The sides were so short (usually around 10-12 minutes, but sometimes as short as 6-7min), and especially for the classical recordings, there are some terrible edits (the Heifetz Beethoven Violin Concerto just fades out in the middle of of a phrase in the first movement and then fades back in on the next side.) So having the piece on one tape (usually up to 38 minutes if you splice some extra onto a 2500' reel), is a great advantage. Since I have digitized everything I want, I haven't done any vinyl to R2R in the past 6 years.
Larry
Larry
IIRC to pass the music on to Larry's next generation
Larry, can you adopt me
IIRC to pass the music on to Larry's next generation
Jack, that's right. I had recently retired when I started, back in 2009, I hit that magic age that Paul McCartney wrote about ("When I get older losing my hair ..."). This was after a long discussion with my wife, who started the discussion asking about what I intended to do about the legacy of my collection of 15,000 records and 1000 tapes (almost all classical), thinking about our daughter and son-in-law and future grandchildren (now two in number). After spending a year, working with Tim Marutani, who also brought in some top recording and mastering engineers (Paul Stubblebine, Mike Romanowski, Mark Willsher, and Art Kelm for my electrical system) to consult and determine what would be the best path (process, hardware, software) to take, I proceded on a six year journey that ended last year with nearly 11,000 records and tapes (the part of my collection I felt I wanted to leave behind) digitized (including album covers and backs), with vinyl declicked. The total is about 35TB (all done at 192/24), using Merging technologies Pyramix software and Mykerinos Card and a Pacific Microsonics Model Two. Since everything is done in real time, I knew I didn't want to do things twice.
Amazingly, the entire collection can fit in 5 External 8TB Hard Drives (a space smaller 1/2 cubic foot) - which is where one of the back ups sits in a couple of safe deposit boxes in my bank. Larry
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...........can I have the name of that bank? And while you are at it, may I please have the code to those safe deposit boxes as well!
Good on you Larry. It's my and probably the intention of many members on this forum to digitise their vinyl too (for me 2 or 4xDSD), mainly for convenience and ease. And though my eldest boy is showing signs of liking the audio game, I doubt if he will have the patience to play the LP's.
But having a good converter and most of all getting started (prioritising time) are key!
Best,
Neville
And while you are at it, may I please have the code to those safe deposit boxes as well! Good on you Larry. It's my and probably the intention of many members on this forum to digitise their vinyl too (for me 2 or 4xDSD), mainly for convenience and ease. And though my eldest boy is showing signs of liking the audio game, I doubt if he will have the patience to play the LP's.
But having a good converter and most of all getting started (prioritising time) are key!
Best,
Neville
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