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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Resnick View Post
    I second this question!

    (Was it the Analysis Audio Omegas that reproduced for you piano convincingly?)
    With NATs they did with SS they didn't. Also that was digital 2 years ago and this is vinyl. There was much more going on here, the cartridge also mattered so much and the TT

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo75 View Post
    Those in Europe should spend some time in the Munich western electric Silbatone room and visit Leipzig to listen to western electric 16a with GIP drivers to get a feel of this - all this sound is different from modern hifi and nothing in our normal experience prepares us to listen to vintage music. The people who have the costliest systems have vintage hifi, after having done the curve of hifi magazine reviewed brands. The Hyundai billionaire can buy all the systems on this forum for breakfast, but chooses to go WE. With cables $5 per m.
    I think the challenge for many of us is the space, the ones in DDKs rooms seem H-U-G-E beyond belief. As much as I would love to contemplate such a system...the big Wilsons have a 16" x 24" footprint and can sometimes work well tucked back (a bit) in corners. Thus, while the SOTA stuff like Arrakis, 4-tower Pendragons might be way more expensive, the question is are they producing something still-pretty-phenomenal while also being able to be more practical in many people's homes where, despite the insane cost of hifi, the real estate can sometimes cost way more (or it seriously impractical to move or build).

    it is in this regard that i give a lot of credit to designers like David Wilson who have managed to create a speaker that reproduces much of music very well, while remaining within a cubic area that fits in a lot more homes/spaces (not to mention its adjustability to those many homes/spaces).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo75 View Post
    With NATs they did with SS they didn't. Also that was digital 2 years ago and this is vinyl. There was much more going on here, the cartridge also mattered so much and the TT
    That Neumann cartridge he uses is a gem
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    nice writeup Bonzo. i'd love a trip to Utah to hear the behemoths some day.

    as much as I enjoy reading your stories, i'll make one suggestion though- audio shouldn't be that difficult, man. at some point you just have to step up and buy some gear and be happy. nobody can hear every iteration of analog for instance. too many variables involved and at some point its counterproductive. just relax and enjoy the music

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    Quote Originally Posted by LL21 View Post
    I think the challenge for many of us is the space, the ones in DDKs rooms seem H-U-G-E beyond belief. As much as I would love to contemplate such a system...the big Wilsons have a 16" x 24" footprint and can sometimes work well tucked back (a bit) in corners. Thus, while the SOTA stuff like Arrakis, 4-tower Pendragons might be way more expensive, the question is are they producing something still-pretty-phenomenal while also being able to be more practical in many people's homes where, despite the insane cost of hifi, the real estate can sometimes cost way more (or it seriously impractical to move or build).

    it is in this regard that i give a lot of credit to designers like David Wilson who have managed to create a speaker that reproduces much of music very well, while remaining within a cubic area that fits in a lot more homes/spaces (not to mention its adjustability to those many homes/spaces).
    I can't disagree Lloyd but once someone hears David's system, IMO everything else becomes a runner up. One must hear and experience it to truly understand how amazing these speakers are with the Lamm electronics
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    nice writeup Bonzo. i'd love a trip to Utah to hear the behemoths some day.

    as much as I enjoy reading your stories, i'll make one suggestion though- audio shouldn't be that difficult, man. at some point you just have to step up and buy some gear and be happy. nobody can hear every iteration of analog for instance. too many variables involved and at some point its counterproductive. just enjoy the music.
    I never said it was difficult. It is very enjoyable. I am cutting through years of experience and upgraditis issues. I enjoy music on concert halls, over 50 concerts a year, and don't need this hobby to listen to music. I am in this hobby because I have my own OCD like everyone else on this forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by LL21 View Post
    I think the challenge for many of us is the space, the ones in DDKs rooms seem H-U-G-E beyond belief. As much as I would love to contemplate such a system...the big Wilsons have a 16" x 24" footprint and can sometimes work well tucked back (a bit) in corners. Thus, while the SOTA stuff like Arrakis, 4-tower Pendragons might be way more expensive, the question is are they producing something still-pretty-phenomenal while also being able to be more practical in many people's homes where, despite the insane cost of hifi, the real estate can sometimes cost way more (or it seriously impractical to move or build).

    it is in this regard that i give a lot of credit to designers like David Wilson who have managed to create a speaker that reproduces much of music very well, while remaining within a cubic area that fits in a lot more homes/spaces (not to mention its adjustability to those many homes/spaces).

    Lloyd, visit Leipzig...it is easy...compare it to any Wilson or Rockport sound. Also the WE 16a needs to be set up on one small wall, and can address one person in a small room or 800 people in a theatre with equal ease, at 180 degrees off axis

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo75 View Post
    I am in such a nasty mood I feel like derailing this thread by saying we put the CD into his Weiss dac and it all sounded the same
    You already did.

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    Great report, Ked! I am in awe of the commitment you have made. I don't know of anything as informative as being afforded the opportunities to hear a series of great home systems. I think it is a smart investment and through your efforts to document it we all learn something and of course, are entertained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadFloyd View Post
    Great report, Ked! I am in awe of the commitment you have made. I don't know of anything as informative as being afforded the opportunities to hear a series of great home systems. I think it is a smart investment and through your efforts to document it we all learn something and of course, are entertained.
    Yeah this is all entertainment. I think this trip more than paid for itself, I am new to analog and cut through so much with such trips

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