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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo75 View Post
    Virgin screwed me as there flight ran into technical issues and we have been put up at the Venetian in Vegas for the night. I can't even go to the casino as I am getting into vinyl and need to save up.
    hopefully, you can get some good food at least.
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    I am in such a nasty mood I feel like derailing this thread by saying we put the CD into his Weiss dac and it all sounded the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo75 View Post
    I am in such a nasty mood I feel like derailing this thread by saying we put the CD into his Weiss dac and it all sounded the same
    Can I ask you to make it more explicit? What do you mean by "sounded the same"?

    And yes, delayed flights are a terrible nuisance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo75 View Post
    I am in such a nasty mood I feel like derailing this thread by saying we put the CD into his Weiss dac and it all sounded the same
    Funny one. That would not derail this thread.

    bonzo, could you describe the scale and sense of presence with the sound in general and specifically regarding the piano performance on the American Sound turntable in David's system? Was there a sense that the piano was there in the room in front of you at a realistic size and volume and also that the sound was produced from that image and then left the instrument's sound board to fill the space of the room in a natural way? This, along with accurate tone, dynamics and timbre, is for me, what makes a system sound truly convincing. Once this happens, one is no longer listening to the system, but to the music and performance as captured on the recording.
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    when I visited David last year I commented that the American Sound Turntable with the Neumann cartridge was for me the highlight of the trip and I was taken to task by saying that for me the sound was better than the AF1. Likewise the EMT 927 was no slouch as well

    I know there was a time when David was thinking about bringing into production the American Sound with the schematics he has. And as Bonzo said, only 2 exist as best as David knows
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    Air travel is a beating, though there is some hope- a new, smallish supersonic in the wings, but the proposed seat pricing seems unrealistically cheap. What you observed, amongst the tables, arms and cartridges that are in the most rarefied category-- that there are strengths and weaknesses, shadings of difference that aren't subtle, only reinforces my conviction about system matching, synergies and subjective preference. Obviously, you can't make a silk purse, etc. but there is something magical about SET, horns and vinyl, even at lower than stratospheric levels. Glad David is mad (in the British sense of the word) to have gone this distance.
    You just did a two/three day turnaround? UK-Western US-UK (with delay)? That's really brutal. I remember doing the Amsterdam-LA thing- I was a zombie when I landed.

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    Thank you for this extremely interesting report!

    I am very impressed you were able to keep straight your impressions and resulting preferences among so many combinations of turntables, tonearms and cartridges! I am pretty sure I would have gotten myself totally confused and frustrated and turned around.

    Where does this new information leave you in your own search for a turntable, tonearm and cartridge set-up?

    Is the Koestu RSP out of contention for you now? (Its midrange "magic" was not enough to overcome limitations elsewhere in the frequency spectrum?)

    Where does this leave your thinking on the Blue Lace or Coralstone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LL21 View Post
    . . . As someone who has been looking for speakers that have that elusive quality reproduce piano to your standards, i am glad to hear you found something. You had earlier said somewhere that you liked piano best on one of the many panels you'd heard. Cannot remember which one...Apogees? What were the differences with the panel relative to what you heard in Utah? too many differences to attribute to speakers, but nevertheless just comparing the piano in both auditions would be fun to read.
    I second this question!

    (Was it the Analysis Audio Omegas that reproduced for you piano convincingly?)
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    The koetsu coral stone is still in play. A guy highly critical of koetsu, who loves vintage TTs, loved the coral stone and blue lace and bought both. Good to have that with an A90 or London decca. Neumann like most of David's stuff is unobtanium

    I need to compare a techdas AF3, a Garrard 301, lenco, and a micro Seiko with a kronos or kuzma. That is a drastic reduction in short list.

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    Those in Europe should spend some time in the Munich western electric Silbatone room and visit Leipzig to listen to western electric 16a with GIP drivers to get a feel of this - all this sound is different from modern hifi and nothing in our normal experience prepares us to listen to vintage music. The people who have the costliest systems have vintage hifi, after having done the curve of hifi magazine reviewed brands. The Hyundai billionaire can buy all the systems on this forum for breakfast, but chooses to go WE. With cables $5 per m.

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