Complete system for $10k that will sound good all day long.

Blizzard · Feb 12, 2016

nc42acc said:
Who the hell is hiding significant facts my friend?

Some people just can't imagine how it could be possible to have the experience to know if something will be good or not without hearing it. I would put more weight on my judgement of a system I based on studying the products in depth, than I would of someone's subjective evaluation any day of the week. Some people think the Bose wave radio is the worlds finest audio system. And depending on the level of knowledge you have, you could very well believe them. Data speaks much louder than opinion. But the only caveat is you must possess the knowledge to understand the data. If you don't, and have no desire to learn, then Blizzard's corner is a bad place to read.

Why don't you break down every single detail of each component right to the nuts and bolt and describe in depth why it's superior? This is what I've done on my other $10000 system thread, If you want to offer a better system recommendation for the same price in my sub forum, this would be a good start.

Gregadd · Feb 12, 2016

Blizzard said:
Yes it is when you don't understand how audio gear is constructed. Kind of like how a small child knows not to touch a hot burner because they experienced the results before first hand. But my question is, how many times do we have to touch that burner, before we know whether it's a good idea or not?

You are never gonna be a top level chef if all you know is to not touch the oven

Johnny Vinyl · Feb 12, 2016

Gregadd said:
You are never gonna be a top level chef if all you know is to not touch the oven

Bingo!

zztop7 · Feb 12, 2016

Not you, just the way the world works

nc42acc said:
Who the hell is hiding significant facts my friend?

I am making a comparison to the "way the world works". "hiding significant facts" has nothing to do with you! I think your posts are excellent [a true compliment & NOT patronizing], and I make sure I read nc42acc.

Why do I read Audio Forums? : to find the diamonds in the rough knowledge. You nc42acc, BruceB, DaveC, the David in Utah with the horns & turntables, Amir & >>many others<< bring-out or provide the diamonds in the rough knowledge.

This guy Blizzard, sure can be rough at times, but he does get some knowledge flowing.

Best to you nc42acc,
zz.

NorthStar · Feb 12, 2016

Good Post ?

I miss David from Utah, big time. And Blizzard's (Mike) corner is one of the best thing that has happened @ WBF since the year 2010...in the last six years.

I like the OP's original post. I like good advancing positive discussions. ...Between the OP and Mike.

nc42acc, your name's Marty, can I address you by Marty?

P.S. I just saw that you edited your first post.

And I just said that I liked it. Mike is simply contributing to it, ... I just don't understand.

There are 7.35 billion people living on our planet, very few of them are posting @ WBF. The high level of sharing is a precious commodity...

Blizzard · Feb 12, 2016

Gregadd said:
You are never gonna be a top level chef if all you know is to not touch the oven

Yes but do you really need to touch that burner 100 times to understand it will cause you pain? Does a pilot need to read the owners manual of a Boeing 747 every morning before work in order to make a safe flight?

To me subjective evaluations carry no weight without the data to back them up. I can never hear through the ears of someone else. I have no way of knowing if they can even hear at all. But I have the ability to study the data presented in order to determine if the subjective evaluation likely holds weight. This is all we can do on forums. We can't hear equipment over forums.

Blizzard · Feb 12, 2016

nc42acc said:
Not important

Marty, that's not very sportsmanlike. No need to be a party pooper. You won't win the gold metal at the rib cook off with that attitude

Johnny Vinyl · Feb 12, 2016

Blizzard said:
Marty, that's not very sportsmanlike. No need to be a party pooper. You won't win the gold metal at the rib cook off with that attitude

If that cook-off is being held within the confines of Bizzard's Corner then you are correct. After all, you are Lord of the Manor, judge and all-knowing.

Blizzard · Feb 12, 2016

Johnny Vinyl said:
If that cook-off is being held within the confines of Bizzard's Corner then you are correct. After all, you are Lord of the Manor, judge and all-knowing.

No you just need to bring a good recipe if you want to have a chance that's all. Sweet baby Rays isn't gonna cut it over here

Gregadd · Feb 12, 2016

Blizzard said:
Yes but do you really need to touch that burner 100 times to understand it will cause you pain? Does a pilot need to read the owners manual of a Boeing 747 every morning before work in order to make a safe flight?

To me subjective evaluations carry no weight without the data to back them up. I can never hear through the ears of someone else. I have no way of knowing if they can even hear at all. But I have the ability to study the data presented in order to determine if the subjective evaluation likely holds weight. This is all we can do on forums. We can't hear equipment over forums.

There are some opinions I would take at face value.
That said you have set the bar pretty high for yourself. Is it okay if we occasionally hold you to it?

Johnny Vinyl · Feb 12, 2016

Blizzard said:
No you just need to bring a good recipe if you want to have a chance that's all.

Seems to me there is no recipe good enough for you.

Blizzard · Feb 12, 2016

Johnny Vinyl said:
Seems to me there is no recipe good enough for you.

Tons of good recipes available. Great start would be on my recommended $10000 system thread. Many options available there for all tastes.

Blizzard · Feb 12, 2016

Johnny Vinyl said:
Seems to me there is no recipe good enough for you.

Duplicate

Blizzard · Feb 12, 2016

Gregadd said:
There are some opinions I would take at face value.
That said you have set the bar pretty high for yourself. Is it okay if we occasionally hold you to it?

You're more than welcome to try my recommendations and see for your self if they hold weight. If you haven't noticed there's been a 100% satisfaction record from those who have tried anything I've recommended so far on this forum. So until this changes, I don't see any reason why I should stray away from how I've been doing things.

Johnny Vinyl · Feb 12, 2016

Blizzard said:
Tons of good recipes available. Great start would be on my recommended $10000 system thread. Many options available there for all tastes.

Of course those recipes are all yours?

Blizzard · Feb 12, 2016

Johnny Vinyl said:
Of course those recipes are all yours?

No not one of them are mine. Every recommendation has been of other people's equipment and ideas.

Johnny Vinyl · Feb 12, 2016

Blizzard said:
No not one of them are mine. Every recommendation has been of other people's equipment and ideas.

Too bad I don't do digital!

Blizzard · Feb 12, 2016

Johnny Vinyl said:
Too bad I don't do digital!

Are you afraid you might enjoy what you hear? or is it the convenience you don't like? Check out the analog rig in my sig. You will never top that. I have Bruce B's vinyl rig in it's full glory in my own living room

Johnny Vinyl · Feb 12, 2016

Blizzard said:
Are you afraid you might enjoy what you hear? or is it the convenience you don't like?

I love the physical interaction of analogue. Digital is too sterile for my liking to use as a primary listening source. It's reserved for my laptop and other areas of the house as background music.

NorthStar · Feb 12, 2016

Marty (nc42acc), you put a great system together: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showt...d-all-day-long&p=378422&viewfull=1#post378422

We all benefit from it. If it was my system that I put together, I would be happy to have other people commenting, complimenting, criticizing, adding, subtracting, improving, recommending, suggesting, sharing, exchanging, discussing, etc. I've seen no "deconstructing" comment on your setup (gear), but few sarcastic personal comments on Mike though.
Those are unimportant, but yours are. Your thread had all the makings for a beautiful journey, and please don't blame Mike anyone; read real carefully, don't judge, be smart...see the good side of life because it's right here.

I thought KKables was good. And I had few more questions...to you and Mike in the goal to advance in my higher audio learning.
Please Marty put back your posts, so that your great setup has a chance to be fully appreciated and perhaps improved...this is what it's all about...towards the best for the money.

Cheers,

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