Yeah you have a guy with all those systems living down the road from the JBL guy, all in a small town an hour from Milan, and both a few miles from a guy who owns western electric 15As. Reminds me of Madonna's t shirt, Italians do it betterNeighbor? You mean they live within a distance where you can see someone else's home from theirs, with an audiophile stereo?
I live in the wrong place. I haven't met anyone within 100 miles of here that's serious.
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Ah Your awake early!--actually I had to laugh --you mentioned off to bed--the Movie that "made Ronald Reagan" was incidentally BEDTIME FOR BONZO!
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What stood out for me is with the Yamamura is how, even at low volumes,they fill up the room, there is music everywhere, and you get low level details. There is immediacy and a musicality that can be heard in a very relaxing fashion, lounging or walking around, instead of listening to it in a hifi-analytical sort of fashion.
I actually mentioned this on Ron's thread, that instead of trying for an uber expensive system, which would still have compromises and leave one unhappy with something or the other, have multiple systems.
If I have a lot of money, my no budget system will be multiple systems with different presentations rather than one extreme expensive one, as I find shortcomings in all systems otherwise.
I would probably have a valve with stats for vocals and baroque, trios with bass horns for orchestral, western electric, and Wilson Alexandria X2S2 multichannel with big subs. A Belt drive with multiple tonearms, a direct drive, and an artisan fidelity. Lampi dac, Shun Mooks under all. Have valve and SS amps that you can swap around, and an SS phono and a valve phono, that you can rotate between systems as well. Datasat Auro 3d in the Wilson room
I actually mentioned this on Ron's thread, that instead of trying for an uber expensive system, which would still have compromises and leave one unhappy with something or the other, have multiple systems.
If I have a lot of money, my no budget system will be multiple systems with different presentations rather than one extreme expensive one, as I find shortcomings in all systems otherwise.
I would probably have a valve with stats for vocals and baroque, trios with bass horns for orchestral, western electric, and Wilson Alexandria X2S2 multichannel with big subs. A Belt drive with multiple tonearms, a direct drive, and an artisan fidelity. Lampi dac, Shun Mooks under all. Have valve and SS amps that you can swap around, and an SS phono and a valve phono, that you can rotate between systems as well. Datasat Auro 3d in the Wilson room
I must say.. most of those speakers shown here are really ugly
F1 engineer (who I assume is frank) seems to have eschewed all the fancy gear for Phantoms..according to posts in other forums.. I might be wrong tho..I might be confused (normal state for me)
I heard the AG trios recently, driven by Unison Research .. if I had the wherewithall (room and money) I would buy em as a 2nd "roller coaster ride" system
F1 engineer (who I assume is frank) seems to have eschewed all the fancy gear for Phantoms..according to posts in other forums.. I might be wrong tho..I might be confused (normal state for me)
I heard the AG trios recently, driven by Unison Research .. if I had the wherewithall (room and money) I would buy em as a 2nd "roller coaster ride" system
Hi Bonzo,
I live in the same region, not so far away from Milan, so if you will come again, send me a PM.
My own consideration entirely Bonzo. Did the Animas WoW you again? as per previous audition.
The Animas have a great timbre on individual instruments. They don't have the bass of the trios with bass horns. Trios better on separation, scale, wall to wall floor to ceiling stage. Animas better on timbre. A lot of Anima sound comes from those horns, which I don't mind, but some do. Animas sound different in each room and with different amps. The Aries Cerat was more balanced in the top and mids, but less on bass than the Devialet. They also change when pointed inwards vs straight (think I prefer straight, it expands the soundstage).
Regarding critical listening, usual demo tracks don't work as well, because each system was set up for a particular type of music. As you know I am not a fan of conal enclosures, so the Goldmunds (though not exactly cones) to me were not as impressive as the horns. Pietro did say he preferred them t o the Apogee because the Apogee was a weaker structure, so the higher efficiency and rigidness of the Goldmund was giving him better micro details. However with the new restored Apogees, that has changed, as you can get very rigid structures, and at a higher price, even a 100db efficiency as in Apogee Definitives.
For me the fascinating thing was how a cheap TT with expensive tonearm and cart and good phono can be so effective.
And again confirming why I love horns so much, they fill the place up and flow very easily as opposed to other speakers. The immediacy and ease is not only seen on dynamic passages and transients, but also in micro details. They also require minimal room treatment, music just spreads off axis beautifully
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I am interested in those acrylic things you are using as room treatment , do you have a close up or a link to the co that makes them?
Best diffusors, IMHO.
Great job even at 30 cm near the speakers.
As already said by Bonzo, they are made by SMT (http://www.diffusor.com/)
Very very effective ... I use three of them . One each behind the speaker , the third in a central position behind the rack . They provide better focus and depth and imbibe life to the notes within the image . You can fine tune the focus for more sharpness or a more diffuse presentation , depending on the distance they are placed in relation to the speaker . Moreover they are highly unobtrusive to the decor and very lounge friendly aesthetically .
I will be getting some in the not too distant future, thanks for the placement tips. Will start with three then!
I can confirm that, we ABed at Jazzhead's place, he also has smaller wings, 1 each on the floor in front of the speaker raised up at a slight angle towards the speaker - very effective.
At Flyer's place, I ABed 4 wings behind the listener, and at Elberoth's I ABed 2 at first reflection points. They always worked creating spaciousness, focus, and soundstage
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