Chinese DAC shames a few heavy hitters

Ric Schultz

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I find everything sensitive to everything. Power cords, line conditioning, AC sockets, using Mad Scientist black discus on AC plugs, dedicated lines, the feet you mount it on, removing the cover (what, you have not tried this?), eliminating or putting super fuse in it, etc. etc. etc. I use a tractor tire inner tube (with very little inflation) and on top of that I have a thick maple slab and then I use the Mad Scientist ceramic feet between the maple block and the component.....very nice combo. Everything matters.
 

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I find everything sensitive to everything. Power cords, line conditioning, AC sockets, using Mad Scientist black discus on AC plugs, dedicated lines, the feet you mount it on, removing the cover (what, you have not tried this?), eliminating or putting super fuse in it, etc. etc. etc. I use a tractor tire inner tube (with very little inflation) and on top of that I have a thick maple slab and then I use the Mad Scientist ceramic feet between the maple block and the component.....very nice combo. Everything matters.

You forgot expectation bias. That's one very powerful tweak the cost's nothing. Well actually maybe not, the more expensive the better it works :)
 

Ric Schultz

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I am assuming post #249 is referring to the posts that got deleted. If so, then you should delete #249 as well, since it now looks like you are talking about the Gustard. BTW, the posted DAC that got deleted was AC powered. You could delete post this as well.
 

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I am assuming post #249 is referring to the posts that got deleted. If so, then you should delete #249 as well, since it now looks like you are talking about the Gustard. BTW, the posted DAC that got deleted was AC powered. You could delete post this as well.

where did the posts go?
 

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They were deleted by the author.

Tom
 

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I find everything sensitive to everything. Power cords, line conditioning, AC sockets, using Mad Scientist black discus on AC plugs, dedicated lines, the feet you mount it on, removing the cover (what, you have not tried this?), eliminating or putting super fuse in it, etc. etc. etc. I use a tractor tire inner tube (with very little inflation) and on top of that I have a thick maple slab and then I use the Mad Scientist ceramic feet between the maple block and the component.....very nice combo. Everything matters.

Hi

If the price of mods for it to rival a costlier DAC becomes that of the pricier DAC then we are entirely defeating the purpose.. The OP was :"a Chinese DAC shames a few heavy hitters". I didn't anticipate it needing profound and un-cheap :) mods to do so ... Oh Well...
 

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Hi

If the price of mods for it to rival a costlier DAC becomes that of the pricier DAC then we are entirely defeating the purpose.. The OP was :"a Chinese DAC shames a few heavy hitters". I didn't anticipate it needing profound and un-cheap :) mods to do so ... Oh Well...

His goal is to make it sound like a $10000 DAC instead of a $5000 DAC with about $1000 worth of mods.
 

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I am the OP and the X20 has not needed anything to keep the Vega or Yggy out of my system. I have switched AC cords with great results.


Hi

If the price of mods for it to rival a costlier DAC becomes that of the pricier DAC then we are entirely defeating the purpose.. The OP was :"a Chinese DAC shames a few heavy hitters". I didn't anticipate it needing profound and un-cheap :) mods to do so ... Oh Well...
 

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I am the OP and the X20 has not needed anything to keep the Vega or Yggy out of my system. I have switched AC cords with great results.

Which clocking mode do you prefer? I don't remember you sharing this information.
 

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I am the OP and the X20 has not needed anything to keep the Vega or Yggy out of my system. I have switched AC cords with great results.

There you go! Very interesting better than the Vega in your opinion?
 

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All defaults. Sharp and Normal on PCM

What's your impressions between the auto clocking and the normal clocking? It uses a completely different way of clocking, and different clocks in the DAC. Most prefer the auto.
 

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Normal has a more focused image, Auto is more open and livelier sound. Both settings are excellent and neither I would consider "wrong". Hope that makes sense.

What's your impressions between the auto clocking and the normal clocking? It uses a completely different way of clocking, and different clocks in the DAC. Most prefer the auto.
 

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Normal has a more focused image, Auto is more open and livelier sound. Both settings are excellent and neither I would consider "wrong". Hope that makes sense.

It just shows how much of a difference different clocking can make.
 

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nc42acc

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Anyone who is trying the X20 needs to experiment with it driving your amp direct. In my system it seems it was made for driving an amp with its higher output voltage. I noticed a very slight loss in dynamics. Again YMMV.
 

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Anyone who is trying the X20 needs to experiment with it driving your amp direct. In my system it seems it was made for driving an amp with its higher output voltage. I noticed a very slight loss in dynamics. Again YMMV.

What amps do you have?
 

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