Lampizator Komputer Changes

Alpinist · Dec 26, 2015

Is it just my imagination or did the specs change on the Lampizator Komputer?

Here's the current page from the website:
http://www.lampizator.eu/Fikus/KOMPUTER_-_MUSIC_SERVER.html

From my memory, the previous page said the Lampi Komputer was Windows 2012 based and sounds much more musical than Linux, which tends to sound rather dry/analytical.

Now the new page says the following: "Why Linux? Because Linux does with one hand tied behind the back what the Windows is merely trying to achieve, together with Optimizer, Fidelizer, and even the fabulous Bughead Emperor. Linux is able to match the quality of sound without one hundred problems associated with Windows."

Ken

asiufy · Dec 26, 2015

Wow, that's a major change. Windows (or MacOS) is too much of a generic, non-customizable thing to be usable for truly high-end results. Linux, being modular by design, is a more sensible choice, and I'm not talking about SQ, just from the technical aspect).

I do understand people end up with great (SQ) results using Windows + specific pieces of software. But I wonder if those particular pieces of software would sound even better running on a more streamlined OS, like Linux. But I also do understand developers wanting to put their apps on the "majority" platforms, and not a niche OS...

Elberoth · Dec 26, 2015

AFAIK ?ukasz has completely reworked his server. It uses a different motherboard (with i7 CPU, regular DDR3 RAM and HDMI out) and Linux OS. ?ukasz claims it sounds better now.

Alpinist · Dec 26, 2015

Elberoth said:
AFAIK ?ukasz has completely reworked his server. It uses a different motherboard (with i7 CPU, regular DDR3 RAM and HDMI out) and Linux OS. ?ukasz claims it sounds better now.

Thanks Adam, I really appreciate the update!

Best,
Ken

bibo01 · Dec 26, 2015

Alpinist said:
Is it just my imagination or did the specs change on the Lampizator Komputer?

Here's the current page from the website:
http://www.lampizator.eu/Fikus/KOMPUTER_-_MUSIC_SERVER.html

From my memory, the previous page said the Lampi Komputer was Windows 2012 based and sounds much more musical than Linux, which tends to sound rather dry/analytical.

Now the new page says the following: "Why Linux? Because Linux does with one hand tied behind the back what the Windows is merely trying to achieve, together with Optimizer, Fidelizer, and even the fabulous Bughead Emperor. Linux is able to match the quality of sound without one hundred problems associated with Windows."

Ken

That is a 180 degrees turn!
Has he decreased the price of the Komputer accordingly?!

Blizzard · Dec 26, 2015

bibo01 said:
That is a 180 degrees turn!
Has he decreased the price of the Komputer accordingly?!

If Lukasz says something, it's as good as written in stone. I suppose it wasn't until he realized Linux was superior to Windows for audio that it was actually true. Maybe he's been reading Blizzard's corner

adyc · Dec 26, 2015

His page is still not totally updated yet. The bottom half of the page still talks about ASIO drivers.

Blizzard · Dec 26, 2015

adyc said:
His page is still not totally updated yet. The bottom half of the page still talks about ASIO drivers.

I imagine the price will be the last to be updated

adyc · Dec 26, 2015

I feel sorry for the Komputer owners who have bought this product. It is not a small change. This is a completely turnaround. I hope he offers free exchange to current owners.

Blizzard · Dec 26, 2015

adyc said:
I feel sorry for the Komputer owners who have bought this product. It is not a small change. This is a completely turnaround. I hope he offers free exchange to current owners.

Welcome to the world of general purpose computers. Can't keep products the same for eternity. Anyone who bought one of these in the first place, won't mind spending the money for a new one every 6 months.

microstrip · Dec 26, 2015

adyc said:
I feel sorry for the Komputer owners who have bought this product. It is not a small change. This is a completely turnaround. I hope he offers free exchange to current owners.

Why should we feel sorry for them? They still own an excellent server and probably will be able to use the new software.

adyc · Dec 26, 2015

microstrip said:
Why should we feel sorry for them? They still own an excellent server and probably will be able to use the new software.

He better makes sure the current owners are able to use the new software because he now claims Linux is much better than Window. Shouldn't he feel obliged to do so considering this product is less than 6 months old. You will never seen any company making such a drastic change in such a short time. He is always rushing products out without full planning.

bibo01 · Dec 26, 2015

Price has been reduced from the original 5900eur+TAX to the present 4900eur+TAX.
Good!

One thing that worries me a bit is this Lampizator's claim: "All machines will play 256x DSD with the 256 compatible Lampizator DACs".
This is not possible with Linux OS and his DACs.
So for his 4 month old clients, in terms of pure playback frequency, this is going to be a downgrade.

adyc · Dec 26, 2015

bibo01 said:
Price has been reduced from the original 5900eur+TAX to the present 4900eur+TAX.
Good!

One thing that worries me a bit is this Lampizator's claim: "All machines will play 256x DSD with the 256 compatible Lampizator DACs".
This is not possible with Linux OS and his DACs.
So for his 4 month old clients, in terms of pure playback frequency, this is going to be a downgrade.

Someone mentions that Amanero will have new Linux native driver support DSD 256.

bibo01 · Dec 26, 2015

adyc said:
Someone mentions that Amanero will have new Linux native driver support DSD 256.

It must be a new Amanero, not the current one, so not the current Lampizator DACs.

adyc · Dec 26, 2015

bibo01 said:
It must be a new Amanero, not the current one, so not the current Lampizator DACs.

Good point. So upgrade for all Lampi owners.

Blizzard · Dec 26, 2015

Now he can cash in on new computers and USB interfaces for existing clients. This kills 2 birds with 1 stone

But he will still need a streamer to take things up another notch with HQplayer NAA. But unfortunately this will render the tweaks in the server inaudible.

Alpinist · Dec 26, 2015

bibo01 said:
Price has been reduced from the original 5900eur+TAX to the present 4900eur+TAX.
Good!

One thing that worries me a bit is this Lampizator's claim: "All machines will play 256x DSD with the 256 compatible Lampizator DACs".
This is not possible with Linux OS and his DACs.
So for his 4 month old clients, in terms of pure playback frequency, this is going to be a downgrade.

I don't think that Lukasz would offer an updated DSD Komputer that doesn't play DSD 256. That's the DSD Komputer's whole raison d'etre, to enable the Lampi Big 7 and GG to play DSD 256.

Ken

Blizzard · Dec 26, 2015

Alpinist said:
I don't think that Lukasz would offer an updated DSD Komputer that doesn't play DSD 256. That's the DSD Komputer's whole raison d'etre, to enable the Lampi Big 7 and GG to play DSD 256.

Ken

Ken

The computer isn't the issue, it's the USB interfaces in all of his DAC's. They are only DSD 128 over DoP compatible with Linux. But even if he offers a firmware update for the Amanero that enables native DSD capability in Linux, it still won't do anything about the high jitter clocks in the stock Amanero. So really the best solution is a complete new USB interface. Since even the top off the shelf unit's are only 67 Euro's a piece retail, it's a no brainer decision if you ask me.

Elberoth · Dec 27, 2015

You can run the new Linux software on the original Xeon / Supermicro version of the Komputer if you wish to do so. That is the whole beauty of PC based servers - you can update the software anytime you want, replace single components etc. I'm not sure why ?ukasz changed to i7 CPU and regular board - the change may be eaqually well price driven, availability driven (I've read somewhere there are problems with Xeon E3-1240lv3 CPUs supply) or performance driven.

?ukasz offered to send me a replacement SSD with the Linux OS to try, but my system is down at the moment, due to the fact I just sold my speakers. I will try it when I get some interim speakers (my new Magicos S5 mk 2 are 3+ months away).

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