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    Quote Originally Posted by ack View Post
    I guess I never posted performance metrics, so here they are, after settling on driver version 355.82 (a couple newer ones offered worse performance):

    Cinebench: At 4K resolution, the score is 1311, which is 104% of the 1279 score achieved by a 12-core 2.66GHz Xeon X5650
    Those are the processors in my old HP Z600, I have very limited upgrade ability with such and old computer. I am booting off one of these https://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Velo...=1&*entries*=0 with dual SSDs on it but it will never match the newer hardware, I only have PCIe 2.0 slots and the video slot is only good for up to 150 watt power draw without running a second power supply. The way HP made this computer makes it very easy to work on but hard to upgrade. The way computers lose value I would hate to spend a lot on a replacement, mine was about $7000 when new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WDB View Post
    Those are the processors in my old HP Z600, I have very limited upgrade ability with such and old computer. I am booting off one of these https://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Velo...=1&*entries*=0 with dual SSDs on it but it will never match the newer hardware, I only have PCIe 2.0 slots and the video slot is only good for up to 150 watt power draw without running a second power supply. The way HP made this computer makes it very easy to work on but hard to upgrade. The way computers lose value I would hate to spend a lot on a replacement, mine was about $7000 when new.
    The Cinebench performance of the Xeons I quoted is likely to be only HD, not 4K, but I am not sure. Total cost for this PC is still <$5K, including the 950 Pro M.2 PCIe 3.0 drive. If I were to do it all over again, I would go with SAS drives and motherboard, and everything else the same. It is characteristic how much my productivity has increased; for example, I was able to down-scale and transfer about 9000 5K-resolution pictures to my iPhone 5 in about 20 minutes; I assume a newer iPhone would offer higher transfer speeds; and I am able to transcode a 2hr Bluray movie (about 23.5GB) in half an hour, before burning it.
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    It looks like the new AMD Ryzen 7 1800X is a great bargain for a $500 CPU, it outperforms my 12 core HP Z600 at stock speeds, I saw the AMD chip hit 1600 on the Cinebench R15 CPU score. With the most recent version of Cinebench R15 my Z600 is only a little over 1300. Intel processors that are faster than the Ryzen 7 1800X cost a whole lot more.

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    Cool. Just installed a Samsung 960 Pro M.2 drive last night, replacing the 950 Pro - and it's quite a bit faster, anywhere from 30% to 200%. I/O performance is where I've been focusing lately. Also, really impressed with the Samsung Data Migration application, which clones a C: drive very quickly, while the system is running, and the clone is of course bootable. I have now sold the 950, keeping the original 850 for back-up - I simply clone the 960 now onto the 850 (NVMe --> SATA III), in 10 minutes flat (~272GB worth).

    We are about to experience I/O performance explosion in the coming years, once PCIexpress 4.0 is released in 2017, which among other things, will also offer 300W of power from the socket directly - that means no more additional power connectors to high-end graphics cards, until they have to go beyond that limit.
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    As someone who started using computer in the late 70's, I am amazed at just how far technology has advanced.

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    ack, do you watch ripped 4K movies on your machine?
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    Hi, sorry I missed your question - I didn't have the bandwidth to stream 4K, but now I do and will try 4K videos... meantime, here's where it gets really fun now. The 2x970 FTW+ were a stepping stone until the new Pascal super-cards were to arrive in 2017. So they have now been replaced with a single EVGA GTX 1080Ti FTW3 Elite - with specs equal to or higher than the Kingpin - and a real unobtainium at this point. Part number is 11G-P4-6797-K1 (K2 in black) https://www.evga.com/products/produc...11G-P4-6797-K1 and this mother gives me 50% higher performance that the prior two 970s SLI'd, at effectively equal cost for either configuration!

    Running the AIDA64 extreme stress-test, this computer now draws 600W of power

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    If you are into this stuff, this card is currently at the top of the heap, and asking prices go over the $850 MSRP (e.g. see Amazon, selling them for over $1000). It is a beast, and apparently very well tuned by the factory; for example, I cannot overclock the memory over the 12.006GHz (you read that right; and even higher than a 1080 Kingpin) factory setting, the GPU just a mere +25MHz before stuttering starts. The fan cooling is really effective and have not registered temperatures over 76C, which is remarkable for this level of performance. Compare all this with the performance we get for 850 bucks in audio... pfff....

    What continues to annoy me is the repeated install attempts I have to make to get drivers to install; frustrating.
    Sources: mod. VPI Aries 3;mod. JMW 10.5i/Ortofon A90;mod. Pass XP-25;Spectral 3000SL xport/mod. Alpha DAC;mod. Magnum Dynalab Etude;mod. Revox B-77II Amplification: Spectral DMC-30SV/DMA-400RS Speakers: Heavily mod. MartinLogan (custom Mundorf xover, cabling, woofers; structural mods);mod. REL Cabling: MIT Oracle 50ic,MA-X/Oracle 90.1 Power: MIT Z-Strip, Magnum Z-Trap; Shunyata Black Mamba CX HC cords, Typhon Tweaks: EAR Isodamp c1002 References: Live unamplified music
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