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    Quote Originally Posted by egidius View Post
    But come on, don't be afraid: Every bit of the chain does their "cheating" *: ME (the musician), the recording chain, the engineer, the system, YOU (the listener): Just enjoy it.
    My form of "cheating" is to get a system to the point where every recording makes musical sense, allows you to get lost in, and enjoy the musical message. But for some strange, perverse reason this is considered an audiophile no-no by a few ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by egidius View Post
    Why are we all so afraid? I do know, that one of the big audiophile mantras is neutrality. But - ask a musician (I am!) - neutrality has absolutely no significance in art (music is an art ;-)
    This is not about being afraid, this is about getting consistent results.

    There is simply no way any piece of gear can be smart enough to know how to compensate for whatever cheating was done upstream in the process. The best one can do is to be faithful because the only available reference for hifi equipment is the information that the engineer decided was needed to include in the recording.

    My comment is in no way a general praise of neutrality. I am not sure why you consider relevant to compare the role of a political decision maker who is expected to apply judgement - his/her only important role in fact - vs a piece of audio gear whose role is just that of a messenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernardl View Post
    This is not about being afraid, this is about getting consistent results.

    There is simply no way any piece of gear can be smart enough to know how to compensate for whatever cheating was done upstream in the process. The best one can do is to be faithful because the only available reference for hifi equipment is the information that the engineer decided was needed to include in the recording.

    My comment is in no way a general praise of neutrality. I am not sure why you consider relevant to compare the role of a political decision maker who is expected to apply judgement - his/her only important role in fact - vs a piece of audio gear whose role is just that of a messenger.

    Cheers,
    Bernard
    A very wise reply Bernard. TOo many audiophile speaks of an equipment with "soul" ... I share your point of view. The quipment should be exactly that neutral with no soul at all. Plays music and be out of the way .. Once it starts having that "soul" .. It can only editorialize... that is apply its "soul" to the reproduction .. I'd rather avoid that. I do not see the point of a messenger who does that...
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    The version 1.4 of the Devialet Air software for iTunes and the corresponding firmware 5.6 are now publicly available. They enable native playback up to 24/96 and downsampled playback for the higher frequencies, support for IR remote controls and tone tuning.

    Devialet has also released an iPhone/iPad app making possible to control the amp volume, source,... over wifi. The level of responsiveness is the same already present with the wireless remote... touch the ipad screen and the volume changes magically on the amp without any noticeable delay. Combined with the usage of Remote on the ipad to select tunes, it makes for a truly seamless user experience.

    In combination with the Wilson Benesch Vector speakers, the level of clarity, punch and dynamic of the HD files is simply unbelievable.

    This release brings the D-Premier incredibly close to the ideal music reproduction system.

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    yep - same here - all loaded and running perfectly. Streaming from my laptop on my knee to D-Premier directly as I type this - no wires - incredible sound - -4dB off the bass to suit my rather too close JBL Everests. Pretty cool! Tone, dynamics and slam to burn. When I need an extra dose of resolution I have a pair of TAD CR-1s to pop in - completely different sound - not as warm but bringing out much more of the natural voice/instrument tone/overtones. Am having a hard time figuring out which is right or the more fun..... does it matter? The D-Premier amazes me at just how well it performs. Speaking as one who was previously using a dCS Paganini / Burmester 911 set up - in my experience here - the D-Premier is definitely in the same league.
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    I have been playing with a borrowed Devialet for the last two weeks. It is really an impressive amplifier - the most detailed thing I have ever listened to - I have never counted so many cars during the playback of track 8 (Frojda Dig, du Kristi brud) of the Proprius FIM CD of the Cantate Domino.

    One delicate point of this amplifier - I have never seen (sorry, listened ) to an amplifier so sensitive to cables. Change the power or the speaker cables and you get a different amplifier - from unacceptable thin and edgy to great sounding. Unhappily, when picking from the too small selection I tried, I only got great sound using some cables costing twice the price of the amplifier.

    The remote is great. I have been missing this type of rotating knob volume button in remotes since the Quad 66 preamplifier is gone. The two button press type remote must be an invention of martians. With a rotating knob in your hand in the sitting place you just rotate clockwise and anti-clockwise two or three times as the whole musical scene gets in focus and listen. I must get such a remote for my preamplifier.

    Just one detail - my dealer tells me that for the Aida's I will need at less two Devialet's. It seems it is the minimum for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by microstrip View Post
    One delicate point of this amplifier - I have never seen (sorry, listened ) to an amplifier so sensitive to cables. Change the power or the speaker cables and you get a different amplifier - from unacceptable thin and edgy to great sounding.
    I have been using an Esoteric PC-9300 power cable (expensive at 2.500+ US$ but one of the best power cables at any price in my view) and Viard Audio Design HD20 speaker cables. Costing less than 800 US$ for a pair, this is one of the very best deal available on the market today in my view.

    These speaker cables let a huge bandwidth go through, pretty amazing amount of bass, clearer than live highs, right and palpable mids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by microstrip View Post
    I have been playing with a borrowed Devialet for the last two weeks. It is really an impressive amplifier - the most detailed thing I have ever listened to - I have never counted so many cars during the playback of track 8 (Frojda Dig, du Kristi brud) of the Proprius FIM CD of the Cantate Domino.

    One delicate point of this amplifier - I have never seen (sorry, listened ) to an amplifier so sensitive to cables. Change the power or the speaker cables and you get a different amplifier - from unacceptable thin and edgy to great sounding. Unhappily, when picking from the too small selection I tried, I only got great sound using some cables costing twice the price of the amplifier.

    The remote is great. I have been missing this type of rotating knob volume button in remotes since the Quad 66 preamplifier is gone. The two button press type remote must be an invention of martians. With a rotating knob in your hand in the sitting place you just rotate clockwise and anti-clockwise two or three times as the whole musical scene gets in focus and listen. I must get such a remote for my preamplifier.

    Just one detail - my dealer tells me that for the Aida's I will need at less two Devialet's. It seems it is the minimum for them.
    Heya Micro,
    worth trying it in dual mono setup IMO as well.
    Personally I think two are worth the money for the improvements, albeit subtle but important in terms of preference IMO.

    As background info I used reference Transparent, Yter, and reference Crystal Cable in the setup.
    Cheers
    Orb

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