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    I owned a couple of the earlier Benz LP ebony carts - I did have a brief audition of the LPs and it seemed similar to my LP at the time. I found the LP rather warm, rolled off treble, so I bought an airtight PC-3 which combined some of the Benz qualities with the better qualities of my vdh colibri (it can sound bright and emphasise sibilance on some music but reproduces 'presence' very well). Since then have also got a Shelter Harmony, which is a very underrated cartridge, and more recently an Atlas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveyF View Post
    Russ, I suspect that there are a number of excellent pieces of gear that tend to get a 'bad rap' or are less appreciated simply due to their age. The Benz LPS MR ( as is the Ruby) is, IMO, one of those pieces. Compared to some of the more recent offerings...such as the Anna and a few others, I believe the older Benz designs can still hold their own. (assuming you are searching for great sound and not just the latest reviewer's darling).
    I just stumbled upon this thread while looking for comments on the LP-S. It had seemed to me that the positive noise about this cartridge that had been around on the net a couple of years before had somehow dried out and I was wondering why this was the case. Good to see that there are still a few users around.

    I did own an LP-S for a year or so a few years ago running beautifully on an Origin Live tonearm. Although at that time this had been the best and most musical cartridge that I had owned so far, for some reason I still decided back then to sell it and try something new. But I'm still hooked on the sound somehow and so I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a new one. If I still remember what it does correctly, I think it will compliment my other cartridges quite nicely.

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    I preferred the Zyx 4d to LPS MR in another audiophile’s system and a friend has just bought a new Zyx Ultimate Dynamic which he is finding much better than the Benz LPS he owns (modded by Holger Stein) right out of the box. I will let him report as his Zyx warms up.
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    Interesting comment, thanks. Why exactly did you prefer the ZYX, i.e. what did it do for you to prefer it over the LP-S? Also, would you care to tell which tonearms have been used for the comparison? That's always quite interesting to know because the arm used has such an essential influence on the total presentation.

    But anyway, I'm absolutely sure that ZYX cartridges do sound absolutely fabulous. Unfortunately for reasons that are more on the sales and distribution side of things and which definitely do not originate in questions abut the cartridges' general technical quality or sound I do not consider ZYX as an option for myself.

    And apart from that I'm also looking for a special kind of presentation from a new cartridge which I'm quite confident I will find in the LP-S. I don't know whether an LP-S would be my cartridge of choice if I only had one cartridge, it simply has been too long since I last heard one so I just don't have a proper bearing in regard to absolute sound quality. But from remembering what kind of presentation the LP-S gave years ago I'm confident that it will quite nicely fill a kind of "gap" and find its place here in my rig.

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    The key was differences in the piano notes and violin notes, each note being more nuanced with the Zyx. I did not see much difference in largeness of soundstage, I just felt the way Zyx laid out things was more proper. On bass and slam, maybe the Zyx was better, but it wasn’t that the Benz was giving anything away. I was also more involved with the Zyx. I have been quite happy with all the Zyxs in private demos. It is not as resolving as Ortofon a95 or Lyra Atlas, and the Colibri, slightly fuller than them without sounding fat, or colored (like Koetsu). I guess latter part of that sentence describes Benz as well. And I like the authority and mid bass/bass of Zyx. It also seems very smooth. I would say that as an alternative to the Zyx I would look at a different sound like Colibri or a95 at those prices.

    You have the colibri and the anna, for me Zyx would be a different sound. The other carts I want to hear are Proteus and Kai. Art 1000 is good but that and Lyra are too similar to your existing carts. Have you looked at SPU anniversaries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo75 View Post
    The key was differences in the piano notes and violin notes, each note being more nuanced with the Zyx. I did not see much difference in largeness of soundstage, I just felt the way Zyx laid out things was more proper. On bass and slam, maybe the Zyx was better, but it wasn’t that the Benz was giving anything away. I was also more involved with the Zyx. I have been quite happy with all the Zyxs in private demos. It is not as resolving as Ortofon a95 or Lyra Atlas, and the Colibri, slightly fuller than them without sounding fat, or colored (like Koetsu). I guess latter part of that sentence describes Benz as well. And I like the authority and mid bass/bass of Zyx. It also seems very smooth. I would say that as an alternative to the Zyx I would look at a different sound like Colibri or a95 at those prices.

    You have the colibri and the anna, for me Zyx would be a different sound. The other carts I want to hear are Proteus and Kai. Art 1000 is good but that and Lyra are too similar to your existing carts. Have you looked at SPU anniversaries?

    Interesting comparison between the ZYX and the LPS MR. However, since you heard the older version of the ZYX, and the new version is apparently considerably improved by the addition of the new Carbon Fibre cantilever...i would guess that the differences would be even more profound now. Another point of interest, is that both cartridges ( the ZYX Airy 4D and the Benz) utilize a similar stylus shape...a micro ridge. BTW, the ZYX Ultimate Dynamic is at a much higher price point than the Benz...or for that matter the new Airy 4D Ultimate.

    A more important point for jackelsson is that the ZYX has a lower output than the Benz...which may or may not be a problem for his phono stage. In my case, using a tube phono, the output could be problematic... luckily the ZYX distributor has agreed to let me try the lower output ZYX with a one time trade back towards the higher output version. ( which may sound completely different than the lower output version...and most likely does??? )---which is why i have not pulled the trigger yet on this cartridge...
    Cartridges are just such a PITA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo75 View Post
    Have you looked at SPU anniversaries?
    Well, not the SPU Anniversary versions, but smaller models. I myself had a GM/E II for a while but sold it eventually. I'm afraid I'm not an SPU type of guy...

    Which was the tonearm you compared the Benz and the ZYX in?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveyF View Post
    A more important point for jackelsson is that the ZYX has a lower output than the Benz...which may or may not be a problem for his phono stage. In my case, using a tube phono, the output could be problematic... luckily the ZYX distributor has agreed to let me try the lower output ZYX with a one time trade back towards the higher output version. (which may sound completely different than the lower output version...and most likely does??? )---which is why i have not pulled the trigger yet on this cartridge...
    This falls more under the "not a problem" category for me. I run two Pass XP-25 and they can handle low output carts quite decently. Actually my lowest output cartridge, an Ortofon MC 7500, has only 0,13 mV output but plays through the Pass like a charm. And in general I actually prefer lower output models. I had my Colibri being built to a lower output spec (0,26 mV) and if I will ever decide to spend the serious money for an Atlas it would quite likely be the SL version.

    But as I already wrote above: ZYX is not an option for me anyway.

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    Last edited by bonzo75; 06-15-2017 at 02:10 PM.
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    I run two Pass XP-25
    Hi Jackelsson, how are you connecting the two Pass XP-25s? The normal way of one XP-25 for each cartridge, or the Dual XP-25 mode, i.e. using only one channel on each XP-25?

    We have found considerable improvement using two X-ono in the Dual Mode, so am interested to know whether a Dual XP-25 set up would yield similar improvement. Thanks!

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    Hi thekong, to be honest, I've never tried anything else with the XP-25 than the normal way of connecting them. The sound quality felt always quite ok as it is. The pair is really just there for convenience because I'm running four tonearms on my deck.

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