More on the Q5s

**lloydelee21** · 01-20-2011, 01:09 PM

another one is Pie Jesu from JOhn Rutter and Turtle Creek Choir...REference REcordings...Smokes!!! that is breathtaking on a full range system...

**Robert** · 01-20-2011, 01:16 PM

Lloyd,

Solti's Ring cycle deserves my vote for the greatest recording of all time. I have a half-dozen ring cycles, and the singing and sonics here are stellar. Highlights include the entire first act of Walkure, with some of the most beautiful and sensitive singing by Regine Crespin I have ever heard.

For Gotterdamerung, try the 3rd disc, #5, with Hagen calling out the townsfolk with the Wagnerian horns. And also go to the death of Siegfried and funeral march on the 4th disc, #10-11.

**lloydelee21** · 01-20-2011, 01:18 PM

great!!! i will play them later tonite! thanks!

**audioguy** · 01-20-2011, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Robert

Like you, I have only demoed the Q5, and have not lived with a pair. Knowing how fussy bass can be to positioning and cabling, it may be possible to tune the Q5 to give the realistic bass I describe.

You left off the most important component: The room. Not just positioning in the room but the room itself. Great speakers in a less than great room = less than great speaker.

Michael Fremer didn't like the Q5 bass because his reference were the Maxx's in much too small a room with a mild bass hump.

As Jeff Fritz noted, unless an individual has lived with accurate bass, he may not like it when he hears it. In my days of installing digital room correction systems that had the ability to provide incredibly accurate bass, MANY prospective users were taken back and wanted to know where the bass was.

I've never heard that Q5 but I would take any reference to lack of/incoherent bass with a very small grain of sand --- very small -- until such time as I heard them in a spectacular room (and I should be able to do that sometime in March).

That said, not everyone will like the speaker even in the perfect room.

**MylesBAstor** · 01-20-2011, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by audioguy

You left off the most important component: The room. Not just positioning in the room but the room itself. Great speakers in a less than great room = less than great speaker.

Michael Fremer didn't like the Q5 bass because his reference were the Maxx's in much too small a room with a mild bass hump.

As Jeff Fritz noted, unless an individual has lived with accurate bass, he may not like it when he hears it. In my days of installing digital room correction systems that had the ability to provide incredibly accurate bass, MANY prospective users were taken back and wanted to know where the bass was.

I've never heard that Q5 but I would take any reference to lack of/incoherent bass with a very small grain of sand --- very small -- until such time as I heard them in a spectacular room (and I should be able to do that sometime in March).

That said, not everyone will like the speaker even in the perfect room.

Have you ever been to Michael's room and listened to his system? Come to think of it, have you heard the Q5s?

There might be a reason that Alon made changes to the speakers since the Q5s.

Otherwise it's pure conjecture.

**Robert** · 01-20-2011, 02:27 PM

Actually, the room was among the best in the US (Goodwins in MA). And the amps should be among the best for bass (Boulder 2050). But I am admitting that cables may possibly make the difference to close the gap.

Magico tends to pair their speakers with several $100ks of components and cabling at shows. Just add-up that MIT cabling. Who uses cables more expensive that speakers? And the Solution amp and preamp retail for $80k. So, whether the Q3 has superb bass for Jeff's review is not a forgone conclusion.

**mep** · 01-20-2011, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Robert

Who uses cables more expensive that speakers?

That would be Nicholas-see earlier threads on the forum.

**MylesBAstor** · 01-20-2011, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by mep

That would be Nicholas-see earlier threads on the forum.

Well actually the speaker cables that I use are equal to or close to the price of my Martin Logan Summits eg. KS Emotion, MIT Magnum, Transparent Ref MM2 or AudioQuest K2

The Cable Research Labs are the least expensive of the group.