beautiful picture Caelin. Keep us posted. What is the rest of your system comprised of?
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beautiful picture Caelin. Keep us posted. What is the rest of your system comprised of?
Interesting point and not entirely surprising. I wonder if Lucas can recommend (or someone else who actually knows this stuff...I don't) what rectifier to match with what output tubes based on such specs....
I'd start with what comes with the DAC. Those should be the best new production. Then it is simply playing around with what is ok to roll in there.
The main reason is voltage drop. plus some are DH and others indirectly heated. I posted the link to Sound of the rectifier elsewhere.
The EML 5u4g is supposed to be a lot better than the eml 274b.
Been done months ago....no need to reinvent the wheel. Only caveat is the GG seems to be a bit different to the B7 and so some small revision can be expected. Most of the GG tube rolliing discussions have occured at Audioshark forum, with Mike being very vocal about what works with his GG. Bruce and Joe have B7's but are pals with Andy who has both and he has given them great feedback offline. Andy does not post on forums.
Rockit, my speaker manufacturer showed with an Allnic all-DHT system at Axpona in Chicago and was very impressed.
Always experience. Specs are only good to tell if the tube will work at all. If you had read the forums, you would not ask this question.
I no longer frequent AC and had no real desire to wade through the Lampi roulette of tube rolling recs. It gives me a headache. It would be interesting, as Paul indicated, to correlate plate voltage of said rectifiers to sonic preferences (and of course a secondary correlation with output tube). An academic exercise more or less but one that would provide potential insight. Carry on....
I hear that... You have a month to kill reading all the rolling threads? lol Much easier way, is to find out what tubes work, then google research the tube (along with Lampizator thrown in) and see what you come up with.
But like I said.... Everyone's system/tastes are different. What works for one, will be crap to another.
But like I said.... Everyone's system/tastes are different. What works for one, will be crap to another.
It is far more complicated than mere plate voltage and AGAIN, if you read the long posts by people like Greg with extensive tube interest and rolling experience in Lampi Dacs (he is the UK disturb and an audiophile and a Euro Jazz circuit reporter) you would get a great primer and solid grounding on where to start.
Practice beats precept every time.
Practice beats precept every time.
Are you not the fellow who posted this?
"Why does every damn thread go Lampizator? I think...
Why does every damn thread go Lampizator? I think the cheerleading has gone on enough... (that ought to get some attention!) lol"
I cant see why anyone would think you are an expert on Lampi DHT Dacs. Total Dac yes, but not Lampi...
I already stated who to read on what tubes could be most suitable as effects are clearly spelled out.
If one is not willing to do a little research, then just stick with stock tubes and let go of the nervosa. Do or dont do...there is no TRY.
That's me! I wouldn't have a tube DAC in the first place. Not for me. Especially after living with the Twelve, that has output derived directly off the DAC's with no output gain stage. In this case, less is definitely more. Kind of like single ended vs Push Pull tube amps. Class A single ended Tube preamp vs cathode follower, etc...
However, all the rest of my gear is tube. That is what I was talking about. Tubes and tuning in general. Never claimed to be a Lampi expert, but I am quite damn good at building a system. Yes, the Lampi will have different results with different tubes. So will my amps, preamp, etc... Will that persons result be the same for everyone's system? I think not. I am not trying to irk you off. I kind of like you. A little bit
Just conversation based on my findings having had a ton of gear. That experience tells me that just because I like my tubes in my system, not everyone else will in theirs.
However, all the rest of my gear is tube. That is what I was talking about. Tubes and tuning in general. Never claimed to be a Lampi expert, but I am quite damn good at building a system. Yes, the Lampi will have different results with different tubes. So will my amps, preamp, etc... Will that persons result be the same for everyone's system? I think not. I am not trying to irk you off. I kind of like you. A little bit
Just conversation based on my findings having had a ton of gear. That experience tells me that just because I like my tubes in my system, not everyone else will in theirs.
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That's me! I wouldn't have a tube DAC in the first place. Not for me. Especially after living with the Twelve, that has output derived directly off the DAC's with no output gain stage. In this case, less is definitely more. Kind of like single ended vs Push Pull tube amps. Class A single ended Tube preamp vs cathode follower, etc...
However, all the rest of my gear is tube. That is what I was talking about. Tubes and tuning in general. Never claimed to be a Lampi expert, but I am quite damn good at building a system. Yes, the Lampi will have different results with different tubes. So will my amps, preamp, etc... Will that persons result be the same for everyone's system? I think not. I am not trying to irk you off. I kind of like you. A little bit
Paul, not picking a fight either and I didnt say that we all have the same tastes. My point is Greg laid it out really well and described outcomes, this tube sounds this way and that tube another…kid of thing. That is exactly what an inquisitive person would want to read.
Referring to tube specs on what works and what doesn't is almost sophomoric here, because that is already defined and in the public domain. We already know that people report different results from even different brands with the same or similar specs and we know that auto-balancing circuit allows many output tubes based on wattage and heat generation.
In the end sysnergy is also important as I ONLY use tube gear with the Dac, SS amplification. We also know that the tube circuitry Lukasz uses is as light as possible, almost to the point of collapse if a single resistor or such component is removed.
PS, I quite like you too.
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