Most interesting...i use a combination of Stillpoints with HRS or Artesania to achieve a similar effect of what you describe...the articulation of details by the Stillpoints coupled with the harmonic weight i find is added back in the mids and upper bass (piano attack) via HRS or Artesania.
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Most interesting...i use a combination of Stillpoints with HRS or Artesania to achieve a similar effect of what you describe...the articulation of details by the Stillpoints coupled with the harmonic weight i find is added back in the mids and upper bass (piano attack) via HRS or Artesania.
I can see how that would work for you LL21, I find that there can be occasion where a blend of disparate technologies may well prove more efficacious in ones own system, than the sum of their parts alone.
Pretty much so yes, certainly worthy of experimentation Bonzo, if there is enough room available on top of your DAC with all those light bulbs sticking out!
I have a set of (correctly matched, thanx Bonzo) GDRs under my 20" x 20" 200lb bpt, and a set of UDRs under my 16" x 14" 100lb vertically stacked 3 Entreq boxes. There is an amazing synergy going on w/my newly installed Sablon cable loom. Organic texture, holistic "rightness" and tonal density are all maxed to the full, and imho, in my system at least, I prefer this greatly to the more uber dynamic, leading edge enhanced presentation provided by Ultra5s, and to some extent Symposium Acoustics Rollerblocks. On the basis of this, I'm looking to Mook out the whole system, cdp, 2 chassis line stage, small psu's/phono. My dealer informs me my monoblocks chassis construction doesn't lend itself to Mooking.
As to putting Mooks on top of gear, this hobby is crazy enough w/out going down this particular pricey avenue
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Bonzo, this expenditure is going to delay any purchase of dsp, but you have only y'self to blame for bringing these miraculous black discs over here!
As to putting Mooks on top of gear, this hobby is crazy enough w/out going down this particular pricey avenue
!Bonzo, this expenditure is going to delay any purchase of dsp, but you have only y'self to blame for bringing these miraculous black discs over here!
Yep, the diamond resonators. Only 1 set of GDRs, 7-9 sets of UDRs, and poss up to 4 sets of MDRs to work twds
Hello,
I bought a second hand second set of UDR that I tried under the amps, first on wooden amp stands with great results and after that under amps resting on the SRA Ohio XL2+.
In this case there was plenty of details and a bit enhanced high frequency that was a bit too much for my tastes. Unbalanced. So I put a set under the Raven AC and another set under the pre. This way music emerge in a way I never heard in my system before. Sorry for the lack of words but writing in english is not so easy for me.
I bought a second hand second set of UDR that I tried under the amps, first on wooden amp stands with great results and after that under amps resting on the SRA Ohio XL2+.
In this case there was plenty of details and a bit enhanced high frequency that was a bit too much for my tastes. Unbalanced. So I put a set under the Raven AC and another set under the pre. This way music emerge in a way I never heard in my system before. Sorry for the lack of words but writing in english is not so easy for me.
Ok, thanks for proving Spiritofmusic's armchair hypothesis wrong, he thought turntables can't balance on mooks
If you think the high frequency is too enhanced, all you need to do is change the way the two mooks are pointing - you can have them pointing straight for more high frequency, and at 5 oclock and 7oclock for more laid back sound. Or any angle in between.
If you add to that the wooden blocks with 3 discs on each, like Audiophile Bill has done, it will take your system much further. You need to buy the blocks in pairs. You will see the pic on the first post of this thread.
If you think the high frequency is too enhanced, all you need to do is change the way the two mooks are pointing - you can have them pointing straight for more high frequency, and at 5 oclock and 7oclock for more laid back sound. Or any angle in between.
If you add to that the wooden blocks with 3 discs on each, like Audiophile Bill has done, it will take your system much further. You need to buy the blocks in pairs. You will see the pic on the first post of this thread.
Ok, thanks for proving Spiritofmusic's armchair hypothesis wrong, he thought turntables can't balance on mooks
If you think the high frequency is too enhanced, all you need to do is change the way the two mooks are pointing - you can have them pointing straight for more high frequency, and at 5 oclock and 7oclock for more laid back sound. Or any angle in between.
If you add to that the wooden blocks with 3 discs on each, like Audiophile Bill has done, it will take your system much further. You need to buy the blocks in pairs. You will see the pic on the first post of this thread.
Well SRA is made for fitting the amps with the native 4 feet. Not sure it is a good idea to. Change that with 3 feet instead of 4 that are heavier and not the same shape placed differently.
Maybe I should ask SRA to tune the platforms for the Shun Mooks.
You need to look at this shun mook treatment for UHA tape decks (supposed to be the best source there is) http://unitedhomeaudio.com/shun_mook_for_the_uha_tape_d.htm - of course, too expensive
His main website is here http://unitedhomeaudio.com/index.htm
His main website is here http://unitedhomeaudio.com/index.htm
HI can you please try them under your amp without the SRA, and let us know the difference between SRA and the mooks? When you use the mooks, please put two forward, one back, and then two back, one forward. I know it's a bit of a trouble, because to compare them with the SRA, you will have to first take one set out from your TT or pre and listen to the system that way. Then take the SRA out, put mooks under amp, and listen that way.
Feedback will be helpful
I tried them under the amps that were put on wooden platforms I bought a few years before buying SRA. These platforms are made with a aparticular spruce by "Musical Affairs", a dutch conceptor of speakers using the famed Phy HP.
The sound made the same ultra musical effect, and the room full of music it did when UDR were used under the pre. So I could ave choosen to keep it like that and sell the SRA. Maybe that's what I will do later when I czn buy another 2 set of UDR or GDRs for the amps.
When I tried UDR under amps with SRA stands I put 2 UDR in the back where are power and output transfos that are pretty heavy. i didn't try as you suggest 2 in the back and one forward. Do you really think it can make such a huge change ? At that time music sounds so good that Im not really willing to change things again and my back is happy for that.
i think tube amps are the most sensible piece to vibes and decided if I change the SRA it will be for the GDR. Ams rest on SRA but I changed the original 4 feet with more audiophile ones that are quite similar in diameter and it's fine as it is. Maybe I will try the Black Ravioli in near future. scott Berry (COmputer audio Design's conceptor) recommands them and I trust him. They are not expansive and under scored in the community.
The sound made the same ultra musical effect, and the room full of music it did when UDR were used under the pre. So I could ave choosen to keep it like that and sell the SRA. Maybe that's what I will do later when I czn buy another 2 set of UDR or GDRs for the amps.
When I tried UDR under amps with SRA stands I put 2 UDR in the back where are power and output transfos that are pretty heavy. i didn't try as you suggest 2 in the back and one forward. Do you really think it can make such a huge change ? At that time music sounds so good that Im not really willing to change things again and my back is happy for that.
i think tube amps are the most sensible piece to vibes and decided if I change the SRA it will be for the GDR. Ams rest on SRA but I changed the original 4 feet with more audiophile ones that are quite similar in diameter and it's fine as it is. Maybe I will try the Black Ravioli in near future. scott Berry (COmputer audio Design's conceptor) recommands them and I trust him. They are not expansive and under scored in the community.
I used to use black ravioli. They have a softening impact on the music by losing leading edge definition. They are nowhere near either stillpoints or mooks IME.
If you want 3d liquidity and musicality, go for Mooks. If you want dynamics, speed, accuracy then go for stillpoints.
And the SPs enhance leading edge and bass, drying out midrange. As for speed, just turn the mooks in or out. You need to try some Giants, seriously. Bill Ying says they are 4 times the ultras
Ok thank you all. I just bought the new Black Night platter, Mat and bearing that are about to be delivered for fitting the Raven.Once I recover some money I think it isto be considered. Really
Giants under 150lb bpt continue to do their thing. Recent Lundahl and Duelund changes to my Zus are creating a bit of a bass monster. Mooks keeping everything nice and bubbly, a real controlled reaction, in the best senses of the words. Amazing.
It's good to see people using the Shun Mook products. I've had the Diamond and Ultra Diamond Resonators for about ten years now. Their popularity has increased and decreased over those years, due to advertising and reviews. Their effectiveness has not. They are very good depending on the component, and they can work in synergy with other resonant control products, like some others have mentioned.
I've had best results with the UDRs under my preamp, followed by other analog components. I do normally prefer harder feet such as the metal Nordost under CD players. Under an earlier player, a Denon, I actually preferred Cardas wood blocks. The platform under the feet is nearly just as important. Icing on the cake is the cone cups under the spike, which can make a difference for fine tuning. I've found the brass ones from Audiopoints work very well with the Diamond and Ultra Diamond Resonators. Also have used Isoclean support cups with good results. This can get expensive. Harmonix makes a few very pricey ones.
It's fun!
I thought to see on a photo taken in an audio show that Jeff Catalano has some Shun Mooks under the TW Raven motor (the 3 motors in a round shpae motor) and asked hom to confirm that. He said he didn't, in that precise location, use SM but he used either Mpingos or the ebony discs that go under the GDRs and works great.
Maybe this can be an easy way to enter Shun Mook territory without ruining itself. i will try that soon.
Maybe this can be an easy way to enter Shun Mook territory without ruining itself. i will try that soon.
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