Here's some new Electrostatic loudspeakers that just come on the market
http://www.essenceelectrostatic.com/product/model-1200/
http://www.essenceelectrostatic.com/product/model-1200/
Essence Electrostatic Loudspeakers
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Did you all see this !...
http://www.essenceelectrostatic.com/how-a-6600-essence-system-outperforms-100k-system/
http://www.essenceelectrostatic.com/how-a-6600-essence-system-outperforms-100k-system/
For real !
I'm a huge fan of electrostats but seriously the sensible/marketing-guff ratio is approaching zero
I'm a huge fan of electrostats but seriously the sensible/marketing-guff ratio is approaching zero
Good news for Magico - they get free advertisement. Let us see how our WBF fan group reacts to the main argument (I am just quoting from the link) "85% of the cost is sucked up by the cabinet".
Wilson owners will be jealous - why didn't they pick the Alexia?
You know, I'm on the fence about these speakers, but I wouldn't write them off because of the ad language. One big question I have comes down to more directional vs. omnidirectional speakers and which is preferable in real life. There's no question that directional speakers will have somewhat less room interaction. FYI, here's a link where the directionality has been measured between a bunch of different speakers. Essence come out directional, but less so than some electrostats. The directionality plots are pretty smooth vs frequency.
http://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/Directivity.html
Tim
http://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/Directivity.html
Tim
Wow
electrostatic speakers
who would have thought
oh my god and i am throwing out my class A cos
the ice caps are melting
God bless essence
no more magico boat anchors.......
electrostatic speakers
who would have thought
oh my god and i am throwing out my class A cos
the ice caps are melting
God bless essence
no more magico boat anchors.......
These started off as Final electrostatic speakers. Yes, they were great speakers and I'm sure the new ones are as good as or better.
Here's a review on the Final 1000i Electrostatic Loudspeakers
http://www.essenceelectrostatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Final-1000i-review.pdf
A few years back whe had a store in Montreal ( Audio D'Occasion ) that carried the Final line of speakers the bigger model was very interesting because it was the only one that didn't need a subwoofer and for ME electrostatic speakers and subwoofers DON'T match it was beautiful and had a very nice sound.
Ah! Here we go again... yet another contender that says it all; it's simply has to be the best because it only costs around $6 grand for a complete system! (panels, pre-power amps and something else...) what about a gorgeous Dutch blonde along with the speakers eh? or perhaps just a beer would do, Heineken?
Uh oh! here comes the wife...
Well just a quick one; it seems like this chappy may be onto something, don't know. One thing for sure is their language skills need to be "up-sampled" to perhaps 192K...
If anyone out there does happen to audition a pair of these ultimate stats, do let us know the comparisons.
Someone mentioned that they were know as "Final" before, perhaps that went belly up, and now they've re-branded to a new target audience, obviously not the well versed audiophile or music lover for that matter.
I strongly believe he is trying to target the new-age audiophile/music enthusiast, who is only aware of large dynamic types or as he calls "conventional" speakers.
This chap will have to deliver a kick-ass performance in trade shows or establish a solid dealer network to break across the barriers. As for now, he seems to target that particular individual who is very geared towards on-line purchasing. Seems like this is a very bold step because personally I wouldn't purchase anything of this nature on-line.
Therefore, he is not targeting our crowd of seasoned audiophiles, he is shutting us totally out and going after the "hip" new "digital audiophile" who may actually spend only 3 grand on a pair of stats and call it "high-end". In their mind this seems to be justified because they are mostly used to headphones (Sennheiser, Sony, Beats, Bose, AKG etc)
I don't really know anything about these Essence stats, but one thing for sure is that Heineken is the essence of Beers!
So with that cheers!
RJ
Uh oh! here comes the wife...
Well just a quick one; it seems like this chappy may be onto something, don't know. One thing for sure is their language skills need to be "up-sampled" to perhaps 192K...
If anyone out there does happen to audition a pair of these ultimate stats, do let us know the comparisons.
Someone mentioned that they were know as "Final" before, perhaps that went belly up, and now they've re-branded to a new target audience, obviously not the well versed audiophile or music lover for that matter.
I strongly believe he is trying to target the new-age audiophile/music enthusiast, who is only aware of large dynamic types or as he calls "conventional" speakers.
This chap will have to deliver a kick-ass performance in trade shows or establish a solid dealer network to break across the barriers. As for now, he seems to target that particular individual who is very geared towards on-line purchasing. Seems like this is a very bold step because personally I wouldn't purchase anything of this nature on-line.
Therefore, he is not targeting our crowd of seasoned audiophiles, he is shutting us totally out and going after the "hip" new "digital audiophile" who may actually spend only 3 grand on a pair of stats and call it "high-end". In their mind this seems to be justified because they are mostly used to headphones (Sennheiser, Sony, Beats, Bose, AKG etc)
I don't really know anything about these Essence stats, but one thing for sure is that Heineken is the essence of Beers!
So with that cheers!
RJ
I am somewhat amused by the Cold-ish reception these got from us here...They may actually deserve it. Their Marketing papers hits all the wrong-notes and there is a fair amount of bovine manure in this material but ... the proof is in the audition. Let's give them a chance to prove themselves by listenig with the minimum amount of negative bias to their products. We must realize and remember that most of the current darling of the audiophile world were at one point spewing the same kind of bovine bowel products as a matter of fact some still are e.g Synergistic Research ...
We have come to accept that 3k for a pair of speakers is cheap and there may be some good reasons for that ... It remains however that our endeavor, Audio has been going against the tide of technology for a while. IN High Tech better is routinely cheaper every year . Phones, Tablet, PC,and especially TVs where the progress is by bounds and leaps .. Audio goes the other way and we gladly comply with nary a complaint all the contrary we find all the justifications for the manufacturers.. What a compliant bunch, we audiophiles are!
as a matter of fact some still are e.g Synergistic Research ...We have come to accept that 3k for a pair of speakers is cheap and there may be some good reasons for that ... It remains however that our endeavor, Audio has been going against the tide of technology for a while. IN High Tech better is routinely cheaper every year . Phones, Tablet, PC,and especially TVs where the progress is by bounds and leaps .. Audio goes the other way and we gladly comply with nary a complaint all the contrary we find all the justifications for the manufacturers.. What a compliant bunch, we audiophiles are!
I am somewhat amused by the Cold-ish reception these got from us here...They may actually deserve it. Their Marketing papers hits all the wrong-notes and there is a fair amount of bovine manure in this material but ... the proof is in the audition. Let's give them a chance to prove themselves by listenig with the minimum amount of negative bias to their products. We must realize and remember that most of the current darling of the audiophile world were at one point spewing the same kind of bovine bowel products
We have come to accept that 3k for a pair of speakers is cheap and there may be some good reasons for that ... It remains however that our endeavor, Audio has been going against the tide of technology for a while. IN High Tech better is routinely cheaper every year . Phones, Tablet, PC,and especially TVs where the progress is by bounds and leaps .. Audio goes the other way and we gladly comply with nary a complaint all the contrary we find all the justifications for the manufacturers.. What a compliant bunch, we audiophiles are!
I also am intrigued to hear these or learn more from others who do. I like panels (Apogee in particular remains stuck in my memory)...and if the business model is sell direct, a significant amount of savings can accrue to the retail buyer. I do not know the true math, but am told some business models are: Manufacturer sells $6K to Importer...who sells for $12K to local dealer...who retails for $25K. So buying $6K from manufacturer certainly could work very well...again, panels do tend to do some things exceedingly well, and when the panels are large enough to deliver slam and dynamics, it can be thrilling.
The Maggie MMG is a great example of what panel technology can do for a retail price of $600!
Agree 100% of course people have the right to doubt BUT when you have heard them then all there is left is how about reliability that is very important i heard these speakers way back did not think that it was that long ago but it was they sounded very very good BUT they where 10k - - - http://www.stereophile.com/ces2006/010606final/index.html - - - after the death of Acoustat ( USA ) the best bang for the buck speaker is Magnepan no other speaker even comes close FOR ME.
The original Finals went out of business because of bad partners. This happened to Sanders electrostatic speaker and he came back by himself. The original designer of Final is now owner of the Essence Speaker. The original Finals were fantastic sounding and well worth their price. No these are not for audio idiots these are for people that are really serious about their music.
would pink floyd be too much for these?...LOL
if you did need a bit of lower end, what if you mated up open baffle type woofers to these?
I love to dream about this sort of stuff.
Someone over on the Audio Circle forum said that Essence will be coming out with model 1900 Electrostatic speaker that will go down to 38 hz ... sometime next summer.
"Agree 100% like almost all panels heavy metal lovers STAY AWAY."
Correct- they are best suited for music lovers.
Correct- they are best suited for music lovers.
Agree 100% like almost all panels heavy metal lovers STAY AWAY.
I'm not sure why you say this. What makes metal difficult for a panel?
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