I agree they produce the tonality (or bite) in a true way. But they don't produce the impact. Like I said in my post, I liked their imaging and tonality. I don't think they have the speed, of a horn, of the woofer of a Logan, or of the AA
The quads I heard were 2905 for L and R, shd 2805 for the centre. Driven by musical fidelity monos, modded.
They were excellent, but I found them slower on orchestral pieces like mussorgsky's pictures and scherezade, which has a lot of brass attack.
You can do your research on Analysis best by listening to them, otherwise just read up comparisons with apogee on audio asylum, and even on the apogee forum.
I owned Martin Logan summits which I recently sold. I sold them off after hearing the AA
Hey Bonzo,
OK that's a fair comparison, I get your point now...
...You mentioned AA speakers, what are those?
Cheers mate, RJ
Hey mate how's it going?
Trust all is well at your end. Shame we couldn't meet up for a listen at my place. Let me know when you're all good, we'll try to arrange something.
Yes, your Magtechs were nice, especially with the Sanders stats. I think you've reached that synergy, better to keep it that way. As for my Quads, the current Conrad Johnson combination that I have, has hit the spot in terms of that reference sound I was after. Dating back to the good old student days in Chicago listening live to Fourplay, Patricia Barber and Chris Botti, is what got me hooked to Martin Logan stats and it all took off from there...
I am not interested in SS, unless it was something from Dan's momentums, Gryphon or Pass Labs. Heard these in S'pore driving the same Quads and ML stats (monoliths).
Overall I am a tube nut! I have lusted for a pair of Lamm ML3 series or 2's that I heard in S'pore with my Quads, this was overall the best I've heard to date!
I will eventually head for a top of the line tube amp from Conrad Johnson, perhaps one of their ART amplifiers but not now. I am not upgrading for another 10 years or so...
Till then, I'm just relaxing and enjoying the music and looking after the family!
Cheers mate, take care,
RJ
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Regarding the Summits, I loved them. They don't do Piano and Orchestral as well as the Analysis Audio (AA, which LL21 explained), but do rock better because of the woofer.
If I decide to go Multichannel, selling them might have been a mistake because putting three hybrids for L, R, and Center speaker might be the ideal multichannel. Will be tough though. I plan to audition a couple of Martin Logan multichannels soon. The best Mch on paper if possibly the one which Jonfo is building, he will soon have an Atmos system (16 speakers), of which the main will be all Logans. There is a guy in Vegas who already has a Mch with CLX, he will be moving the CLX to the sides and adding the Neoliths to the fronts. He has 4 velodyne subs and 2 descent subs. 43 ft room.
Since you are in Australia, try to visit awsmone on this forum who lives in Canberra and has a Logan CLX Multichannel. He has also stated Conducting and Composing on his Interests page. Fyi, these multichannels I am referring to are for listening to Mch classical music, and not for movies
Hi micro, so what are the advantages you find with your soundlabs over the MCH system for classical
I prefer stats, but I do like the Maggies a lot.
And if you ask the engineers, most seem to think that stats are better technologically, at least in the midrange. Yet most audiophiles have more reverance for Maggies. And if you look at the reference systems of reviewers, there seem to be more Maggies than electrostats.
Please share your thoughts and preferences.
Hey Bonzo, thanks for that mate. Yes, I did come across this distributor and they are ridiculously expensive. Might as well go for the ml statements with these guys pricing. Even if I had the means it would be a crime and real challenge to justify this kind of purchase to the good wife where a pair of "doors" cost equivalent to a small town house... I sometimes wonder how on earth these high-endchaps are able to even survive in a small market like Australia with such crazy prices.Big Dog, there seems to be an AA distributor in Australia. http://www.nationalaudiogroup.com.au/
At least in my country, where power is not stable nor clean, electrostats' mortality rate is high. Most friends whom I know possessed Quad 63s and Martin Logans have had breakdowns, some fixed, some eternally doomed. That is really the main reason why I still shy away from stats. I must say hearing Quads and MLs, (lately the Summit) they possess a liquidity and presence that I don't hear in my Maggie. They push the proverbial they-are-in-the room bit to the max, imo. And they are fine sounding, with utter lack of grain. The Summits can be pushed hard, and play loud and even fill a medium to big room, and they stay fine, unlike my Maggies, they can sound a bit grainy when played loud, at least my model. One thing about Maggie that I have discovered only lately, when they are driven by powerful amps, like a Hegel H4 which a friend brought over last month, they become another animal. It's like water falling out of Niagara falls. Music comes out with so much ease, and bass punch and power go a few notches more. 600+ watts into 4 ohms is nothing to sneeze about. The Summits sound lovely but until I hear better stories with their behavior vis-a-via our power line quality, I'm putting them on hold.
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