Has anyone ever used cables from this company

MC352

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The company that makes these cables is right down the road from me.
I wonder if anyone ever used their cables and if so, what you thought of them.

http://www.goertzaudio.com

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DonH50

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I have not, but it looks interesting. I don't really buy that transmission line effects matter at audio frequencies for typical installations, so I would have used a thicker intermediate dielectric to achieve low capacitance as well as relatively low inductance rather than going for a low-Z cable with relatively high capacitance. That's a pretty hefty capacitive load, though probably in the mud as far as the amp and speaker are concerned... - Don
 

MylesBAstor

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I have not, but it looks interesting. I don't really buy that transmission line effects matter at audio frequencies for typical installations, so I would have used a thicker intermediate dielectric to achieve low capacitance as well as relatively low inductance rather than going for a low-Z cable with relatively high capacitance. That's a pretty hefty capacitive load, though probably in the mud as far as the amp and speaker are concerned... - Don

Don: Think you're right about the electrical properties and possible interactions. Years ago, had the speaker cables in and didn't like them between my cj amps and Martin-Logans. One thing I remember is that they were in my system, rolled off and congested. OTOH, one of my colleagues had good success with the speaker cables between his Modjeski amplifiers and smaller Genesis speakers.
 

JackD201

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A good friend who built his own 2a3 amp said his amp couldn't handle the Alpha. He went with generic 12-guage instead.
 

DonH50

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Thanks Myles. We've all experienced that sort of thing... I think that's one reason there's so much debate about cables in particular. As I have noted elsewhere, the measurements don't mean anything if they are not done in the right environment. Interactions among components and cables aren't all that hard to measure, but it takes a lot of gear and knowledge most audiophiles do not have.

I spent a lot of time finding good cables to run from my old tube preamp to my amp, looking mainly for very low capacitance since the impedances were so high. In a SS system, I'd probably trade higher capacitance for lower inductance and resistance due to the much lower impedances (source and load).

It all has to play nice together to sound good... - Don
 

MylesBAstor

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Thanks Myles. We've all experienced that sort of thing... I think that's one reason there's so much debate about cables in particular. As I have noted elsewhere, the measurements don't mean anything if they are not done in the right environment. Interactions among components and cables aren't all that hard to measure, but it takes a lot of gear and knowledge most audiophiles do not have.

I spent a lot of time finding good cables to run from my old tube preamp to my amp, looking mainly for very low capacitance since the impedances were so high. In a SS system, I'd probably trade higher capacitance for lower inductance and resistance due to the much lower impedances (source and load).

It all has to play nice together to sound good... - Don

Yes and there are special instances where the cable's electrical properties are exceedingly important eg. matching the impedance of the head block in a R2R machine!
 

Mark (Basspig) Weiss

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Save your money for better speakers or a more powerful amplifier.
Get some good Monoprice cables and move on. Nothing to see here...




"And he opened the Door and let the Light of Truth flood the formerly darkened church..."
 

MylesBAstor

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Save your money for better speakers or a more powerful amplifier.
Get some good Monoprice cables and move on. Nothing to see here...




"And he opened the Door and let the Light of Truth flood the formerly darkened church..."

Yep, quantity over quality strikes again. Zippity do da, zippity day, oh my ears are aching for another day.
 

Kal Rubinson

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A good friend who built his own 2a3 amp said his amp couldn't handle the Alpha. He went with generic 12-guage instead.

I had simiilar issues with a Theta amp and decided that the Alphas were too problemmatic to bother with. The interconnects were unexceptional.
 

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