When It Comes To Refrigeration Is It Subzero Vs Everything Else

[rhopkins]

I wanted to move to California about ten years ago. My career was headed that way as I was working with some of production people for The Rolling Stones at the time and they were in Los Angeles. My wife wasn't so keen. She was finishing her fellowship in Gyn/Onc and had some offers to go south but they all made her nervous for some reason.

So, as with all marriages, we compromised and stayed in Canada.

Still, I have vivid memories of one interview in Miami where they set us up with a real-estate agent. She showed us some of the possible places we could live and one was a condo on the beach. 3,500 sq ft. with windows on three sides and a private elevator BUT (and this was the uber-cool thing for me) you went down to the lobby and walked out onto the beach! You just can't get that in Canada!

To this day I joke with her when the first snow falls - "Do you remember that condo on Miami beach? We could have been living there BUT NOOOOO!!!!" : )

OHIP is different for Gyn/Oncs now. They cooked up an APP which is basically a salary and not fee for service. In the process their salary increased by a factor of 2.5. It has it's own issues but many of them were moving to the US for dollars and they had to stop that somehow. Now I think most are paid more in Canada than the US - at least the ones in academic centers.

[Steve Williams]

Rick

Gyn Onc is hugely paid here in California.

[rhopkins]

There is a Gyn/Onc in Toronto who practiced there for a few years and returned to Canada. In the non-academic setting they still make massive dollars and she was in this camp. Not heart surgery but getting up there. Certainly more than in Canada! She wanted to be closer to family though.

In the academic world, I don't think they do make more in the US, or at least when she was looking that was the case. It also depends on which academic center.

She didn't like the idea of just cutting all the time though. In the academic centers they work in clinic or the OR 2.5 days a week. The rest is their own time. For us, it's working out well because she has so much flexibility in her schedule and is still paid very well. They also get 8 wks paid vacation and 2 wks paid educational leave. The OR shuts down for 2 wks about now.

I went into the wrong career...

[Steve Williams]

I went into the wrong career...

me too

most of the great gyn onc groups here are all private practice based and make north of a 7 digit income. The big group here literally covers all of northern California

[MelanieM]

When we redid our kitchen we looked at SubZero as well as the other brands like Thermador, KitchenAid and GE refrigerators. We ended up going with a separate refrigerator and freezer by Viking. We liked the Miele refrigerator but not the freezer, so we went with the Viking separates. The other option for a freezer, you can get an under-counter freezer and have it hidden with cabinet doors.