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MylesBAstor · Jun 29, 2014

or is this just a bit pricey? First thought might have the ARIA electronics but don't see any mention.

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/ta...ored-2014-06-29-miscellaneous-17406-hellam-pa

I've know perfect machine with ARIA to go for less.

Bruce B · Jun 29, 2014

Way too much

Mike Lavigne · Jun 29, 2014

assuming that ATR Services did their complete rebuild on the machine, that is what an ATR-102 runs now. and that is if they have one. and considering what other 'fully refurbed' tape decks are running $12k is a bargain. I've seen people spend over $15k on 'massaged' prosumer machines that won't touch an ATR-102.

if you find one that had this done a few (3-5) years ago then maybe around $9k-$10k is the range.

which does not mean that one might come on the market for less.

RogerD · Jun 29, 2014

I think it's probably worth 6 to 8K but when considering that playback only audiophile decks push 20k who the hell knows anymore. I'm probably low...8K

RogerD · Jun 29, 2014

Myles offer 10K shipped to your door and tell your beatiful new bride it is a belated wedding present to her.

MylesBAstor · Jun 29, 2014

RogerD said:
Myles offer 10K shipped to your door and tell your beatiful new bride it is a belated wedding present to her.

Don't give me any ideas!

MylesBAstor · Jun 29, 2014

Mike Lavigne said:
assuming that ATR Services did their complete rebuild on the machine, that is what an ATR-102 runs now. and that is if they have one. and considering what other 'fully refurbed' tape decks are running $12k is a bargain. I've seen people spend over $15k on 'massaged' prosumer machines that won't touch an ATR-102.

if you find one that had this done a few (3-5) years ago then maybe around $9k-$10k is the range.

which does not mean that one might come on the market for less.

Thanks Mike. I know Harry Weisfeld picked up an ARIA equipped machine for less about a year ago but maybe it's, as you suggest, an older machine.

Bruce B · Jun 29, 2014

I paid $14k for a new Aria machine in '07 and kept it a couple of years. Sold it for the same price I paid. Had another in here for a few months. Don't know what all the hype is about. The Studers got used 90% of the time. Just another flavor that I didn't like.

Mike Lavigne · Jun 29, 2014

I owned a stock ATR-102 for 6 years......and had a few other top decks thru the room during that time. it's my favorite sounding deck stock. maybe the A-820 with the stock OTL card is as good. the A80 is also very good stock.....although I've not lived with one. I know Bruce really likes it.

and ATR-102 is as fine a transport as there is....and that is from an owner of 2 Studer A-820's.

rockitman · Jun 29, 2014

This seller has advertised this deck on and off for months now...starting last fall if I remember correctly.

rad · Jun 29, 2014

Mike Lavigne said:
I owned a stock ATR-102 for 6 years......and had a few other top decks thru the room during that time. it's my favorite sounding deck stock. maybe the A-820 with the stock OTL card is as good. the A80 is also very good stock.....although I've not lived with one. I know Bruce really likes it.

and ATR-102 is as fine a transport as there is....and that is from an owner of 2 Studer A-820's.

I will agree with Mike's assessment of the ATR-102. Great sounding stock deck & the transport performs perfect.. Add the Aria & you take it to another level.
Of course I do understand everyone's flavor may be different & that's fine, but don't sell this deck short in my opinion.

Rocketman is correct, I have seen this deck listed before as well.
If it is what he says in the ad, I would say the price is not out of line, all things considered & compared to other decks now being offered.

I own & use the Studer A-820 / Doshi, the Studer A-80, & the ATR-102 -Aria. They all perform extremely well stock & with the upgraded pre's. Well

ya know!
The question comes down to what you want to spend & what level you want to achieve.
Most used machines on e-bay, ect. all need some work / calibration, so $$ will be spent regardless. The days of good $2000 to $3000 tape decks maybe gone.

Gary

RogerD · Jun 29, 2014

Myles you should walk over to 353 West 48th Street FL B and see Dan.I bet he could fix you up with something nice and not cost a fortune I would bet he would do a layaway,so the little lady would be happy too.

RogerD · Jun 29, 2014

rad said:
I will agree with Mike's assessment of the ATR-102. Great sounding stock deck & the transport performs perfect.. Add the Aria & you take it to another level.
Of course I do understand everyone's flavor may be different & that's fine, but don't sell this deck short in my opinion.

Rocketman is correct, I have seen this deck listed before as well.
If it is what he says in the ad, I would say the price is not out of line, all things considered & compared to other decks now being offered.

I own & use the Studer A-820 / Doshi, the Studer A-80, & the ATR-102 -Aria. They all perform extremely well stock & with the upgraded pre's. Well ya know!
The question comes down to what you want to spend & what level you want to achieve.
Most used machines on e-bay, ect. all need some work / calibration, so $$ will be spent regardless. The days of good $2000 to $3000 tape decks maybe gone.

Gary

Gary....glad to see you finally got that A820

MylesBAstor · Jun 29, 2014

RogerD said:
Myles you should walk over to 353 West 48th Street FL B and see Dan.I bet he could fix you up with something nice and not cost a fortune I would bet he would do a layaway,so the little lady would be happy too.

Roger, it's not the money. There's absolutely no space for the machine!

RogerD · Jun 29, 2014

MylesBAstor said:
Roger, it's not the money. There's absolutely no space for the machine!

I understand ,but someday visit Dan, he's got my C37.

Mike Lavigne · Jun 29, 2014

I would buy this ATR but I'm done collecting tape decks, -2- A-820's are enough....one for 1/4" and one for 1/2".

I spent a few days with a 'pristine' stock ATR Services ATR-102 at the Newport show and it sounded heavenly. I was very impressed.

I cannot imagine a better piece of audio source gear for $12k....or maybe at any price. bar none! not that the right software is cheap.

MylesBAstor · Jun 29, 2014

RogerD said:
I understand ,but someday visit Dan, he's got my C37.

Will do!

RogerD · Jun 29, 2014

MylesBAstor said:
Will do!

Thanks Myles,

Dan just started on it,so no hurry,but a visit might be fun. Dan is the tech for Sear Sound which was founded by Walter Sear. It is one of the great studios left in NYC. The studio is above Dan in the same building.

c1ferrari · Jun 30, 2014

rad said:
The days of good $2000 to $3000 tape decks maybe gone.
Gary

This is no hyperbole :b

c1ferrari · Jun 30, 2014

RogerD said:
Myles you should walk over to 353 West 48th Street FL B and see Dan.I bet he could fix you up with something nice and not cost a fortune I would bet he would do a layaway,so the little lady would be happy too.

Roger,

I've exchanged e-mails with Dan...no more A810's, presently

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