power cords for Vitus SM-101 Monoblocks , what do you think can match?

Barry2013 · Jul 7, 2014

Jazzhead said:
Not wild variations , more unpredictability . Check out Bob Levi's Origo review , says something similar . So not the only person to have experienced this .... http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue48/jorma_origo.htm

Thanks for that link.
Do you by any chance know where I can find Bob's review of the London cartridge that he refers to in that Origo review.
It's a cartridge I have been fascinated with for years but never made the leap because of its reported idiosyncracies. Now that I have a Townshend Rock V turntable (and its silicon damping) and Origin Live arm it seems less of a risk

Bodhi · Jul 7, 2014

audioblazer said:
Bodhi , I do have jorma prime XLR. Will compare it to Goebel IC soon

Cool, it would be interesting to read your impressions of the two cables.

Jazzhead · Jul 8, 2014

Barry2013 said:
Thanks for that link.
Do you by any chance know where I can find Bob's review of the London cartridge that he refers to in that Origo review.
It's a cartridge I have been fascinated with for years but never made the leap because of its reported idiosyncracies. Now that I have a Townshend Rock V turntable (and its silicon damping) and Origin Live arm it seems less of a risk

Apologies to the OP for the rather tangential course the thread has veered off on . Banking further starboard to comply with Barry's request .... http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue48/london_reference.htm . Hope we get to tracking true course soon

Bodhi · Jul 8, 2014

Jazzhead said:
Not wild variations , more unpredictability . Check out Bob Levi's Origo review , says something similar . So not the only person to have experienced this .... http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue48/jorma_origo.htm

Jazz, Bob's feedback does not surprise me at all. Origo perhaps more than any other cable in the Jorma lineup is dead neutral and transparent to source; connect it to one component and you may love the sound, connect it another and the results might be different. It's just like when you connect one amp to a pair of Magico S5's you get a different result from connecting another amp; because the S5's are so transparent and resolving they lay your upstream rig bare for better or worse...so to with Jorma.

Jazzhead · Jul 8, 2014

Bodhi said:
Jazz, Bob's feedback does not surprise me at all. Origo perhaps more than any other cable in the Jorma lineup is dead neutral and transparent to source; connect it to one component and you may love the sound, connect it another and the results might be different. It's just like when you connect one amp to a pair of Magico S5's you get a different result from connecting another amp; because the S5's are so transparent and resolving they lay your upstream rig bare for better or worse...so to with Jorma.

Bodhi ... This is the specific part I was referring to ... "Though I like the Prime a lot, I have never heard a complete Prime system and know the included Bybees behave differently and unpredictably in every application, and as such I don't think they are necessary in this application."

Bodhi · Jul 8, 2014

Jazzhead said:
Bodhi ... This is the specific part I was referring to ... "Though I like the Prime a lot, I have never heard a complete Prime system and know the included Bybees behave differently and unpredictably in every application, and as such I don't think they are necessary in this application."

Yes i've read the review before. I respect Bob as a reviewer, but he is also in the business of generating readers for his publications. If you don't believe me, there is a rampant Bybee thread on Stereo.net.au forum with mostly ill informed, hystrionic comments endlessly prostrating both camps point of view. But I do subscribe to the view that reference level cables by their nature should remain neutral, transparent & not editorialize what they're fed. Therein, if you don't like what you're hearing, it's simple; you can either change your upstream equipment or change your cables. I fall into the former school of thought.

Brian Walsh · Jul 8, 2014

Bodhi said:
Yes i've read the review before. I respect Bob as a reviewer, but he is also in the business of generating readers for his publications. If you don't believe me, there is a rampant Bybee thread on Stereo.net.au forum with mostly ill informed, hystrionic comments endlessly prostrating both camps point of view. But I do subscribe to the view that reference level cables by their nature should remain neutral, transparent & not editorialize what they're fed. Therein, if you don't like what you're hearing, it's simple; you can either change your upstream equipment or change your cables. I fall into the former school of thought.

If you disagree with those posting on that site, why don't you reply to that thread? (a link to the thread, please?)

Brian Walsh · Jul 8, 2014

Bodhi said:
Ouch

???

Barry2013 · Jul 8, 2014

Jazzhead said:
Apologies to the OP for the rather tangential course the thread has veered off on . Banking further starboard to comply with Barry's request .... http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue48/london_reference.htm . Hope we get to tracking true course soon

Thank you Jazzhead.
Much appreciated.

Bodhi · Jul 8, 2014

Brian Walsh said:
??? ???

Brian, I made reference to that thread to highlight how contentious the subject of Bybee products is. By suggesting that I should instead post my opinions on another website your comment came across as dismissive and an attempt to invalidate my view. You asked..

Brian Walsh · Jul 8, 2014

Bodhi said:
Brian, I made reference to that thread to highlight how contentious the subject of Bybee products is. By suggesting that I should instead post my opinions on another website your comment came across as dismissive and an attempt to invalidate my view. You asked..

Contentious? How so?

Not invalidating, simply asking why you didn't post a rebuttal on that site.

Again, please post the link to the thread you referenced.

Brian Walsh · Jul 11, 2014

So, Bodhi, it's been a few days and you have not responded yet have posted elsewhere on this site. Hence the logical assumption is that for whatever reason you are marginalizing the thread on the Australian site and perhaps are unable to post a rebuttal there. What's the story?

Whatmore · Jul 12, 2014

Brian Walsh said:
So, Bodhi, it's been a few days and you have not responded yet have posted elsewhere on this site. Hence the logical assumption is that for whatever reason you are marginalizing the thread on the Australian site and perhaps are unable to post a rebuttal there. What's the story?

This may be the thread
http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/63993-the-definitive-bybee-experiment/

Most of the "experimenters" in that thread (myself included) were not at all blown away by the bybees. Most of the histrionics came from those who seemed very keen to tell the experimenters why we were wrong

Brian Walsh · Jul 12, 2014

Whatmore said:
This may be the thread
http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/63993-the-definitive-bybee-experiment/

Most of the "experimenters" in that thread (myself included) were not at all blown away by the bybees. Most of the histrionics came from those who seemed very keen to tell the experimenters why we were wrong

Thanks, Whatmore, however I'm looking for Bodhi's response in that thread and don't see it.

Whatmore · Jul 12, 2014

There have been a few threads, perhaps that's not the one he meant

Brian Walsh · Jul 12, 2014

Whatmore said:
There have been a few threads, perhaps that's not the one he meant

It's impossible to know which one until he posts the link.

Steve Williams · Jul 12, 2014

Brian

It seems to many that you are trolling here with Bodhi. That's not what we do here at WBF so I am going to ask you to cease and desist that immediately. I do hope you got my message loud and clear.

Brian Walsh · Jul 12, 2014

Although I was trying to get to the bottom of things, your message is clear.

Namaste · Jul 15, 2014

The preferred cables, Goebel, at the recent ultra high end Audioexotics show in Hong Kong.

TBG · Dec 22, 2014

I should say straight off that my reference cables are all High Fidelity Ultimate Reference. I have never heard any cable that gives me the realism that they do. I have had both the Stage III Krackens and the Goebels as well as another prototype that I cannot mention. My system remains all HFC.

What I find absent in the competition is decay of notes and the realism of the performance. As Cam_01 says, the Goebels are quite mellifluous. I could listen to them all night, but they never give me any sensation of being at the recording venue. I fully concede that my personal tastes are such realism. This is just my two bits.

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