DIN phono cable

Bruce B · Dec 26, 2013

Looking for an upgrade to the DIN phono cable supplied with my SME Series V arm..... preferrably with XLR ends? Does such an animal exist?

Was looking on The Cable Co. website and all I found were cables by Purist Audio. Any more??

jfrech · Dec 26, 2013

I've owned a few...din to xlr's when I had my BAT VKP10SE phono stage (with a SME arm and table then) lower on the money scale is Hovland and Cardas...Purist makes a killer good phono cable..I've owned the Venastas and Proteus Provectus Praesto...it's really had to beat one of the Purist in their respective price ranges...last few years I was using a Transparent Ref XL MM2 but din to rca with I traded my BAT phono for a Nagra...Transparent will wire in a din to XLR if desired...

(In the days I had my BAT phono I even compared din to rca and din to xlr of the same cable type...in that phono..the xlr was better...more gain lower noise and all the benefits that brings)

ack · Dec 26, 2013

Nordost and MIT will also do DIN to XLR

Bruce B · Dec 26, 2013

Thanks guys...... yeah, my Doshi pre has Balanced in and wanted to utilize it since a studio can be a very hostile environment for hum...

jazdoc · Dec 26, 2013

Hey Bruce --

I highly recommend the Found Music phono cable. Scott can customize to your specs.

Bruce B · Dec 26, 2013

jazdoc said:
Hey Bruce --

I highly recommend the Found Music phono cable. Scott can customize to your specs.

Cool.... I'll have to get in contact with him.

garylkoh · Dec 26, 2013

I have quite a bunch of different ones that you can try out if you like - since the Burmester also uses balanced XLR inputs - including one I designed for myself.

Odyno · Dec 26, 2013

I have a couple at home.
DIN-XLR I have the IC-70 Graham and the Audioquest LeoPard Tonearm Cable with 72V DBS.
2 excelent the Audioquest being a bit more liquid,
Thats with the SME20/SME V/ Dyna XV1S combo and the Aesthetix Io

JackD201 · Dec 26, 2013

I've got a couple lying around somewhere from when I used to use a BAT VK P10 SP. A Graham IC-70 and custom Audience Au24s.

Bruce B · Dec 26, 2013

Damn.... I guess it's more popular than I thought!

JackD201 · Dec 26, 2013

I think most manufacturers will build you one if you ask for it.

Bruce B · Dec 26, 2013

JackD201 said:
I think most manufacturers will build you one if you ask for it.

Already asked the manufacturer that I use and they won't do it.

garylkoh · Dec 26, 2013

Bruce B said:
Already asked the manufacturer that I use and they won't do it.

Many tonearm cables are coaxial - that doesn't work as a true balanced cable. It will pick up hum like crazy if you use that into a balanced input. Designing a balanced tonearm cable is not trivial. When I took apart one that I had, I found that it shorted pin 3 to ground. It was a single-ended cable with an XLR on the end!!

Odyno · Dec 26, 2013

My Audioquest Leopard was RCA at first but was converted by a local Furutech dealer from who I bought the Furutech Rhodium Plated XLR

Bruce B · Dec 26, 2013

garylkoh said:
Many tonearm cables are coaxial - that doesn't work as a true balanced cable. It will pick up hum like crazy if you use that into a balanced input. Designing a balanced tonearm cable is not trivial. When I took apart one that I had, I found that it shorted pin 3 to ground. It was a single-ended cable with an XLR on the end!!

That's my worry. A lot of manufacturers don't know how to make a true balanced cable ( or equipment for that matter).

doshiaudio · Dec 28, 2013

Bruce,

The stock SME cable is 2 conductor plus shield/channel which can be used into a balanced input. The RCA jacks on the unit are also wired in this fashion so by using the stock cable, all you are losing is not having the shell around the conductors for a shield. alternatively, you could cut the RCA's off the SME Vandenhul cable and solder XLR's on. In my experience, a lot of the cables supplied by turntable manufacturers are wired in this fashion and can be used balanced, If the RCA jack is mounted to the chassis of the preamplifier using isolation grommets (as mine are) this provides a way to make a balanced connextion using an RCA jack, the downside is that the connection is not quite symmetrical and not shielded. So not optimal, but usable.

Bruce B said:
Thanks guys...... yeah, my Doshi pre has Balanced in and wanted to utilize it since a studio can be a very hostile environment for hum...

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