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    Entreq Tellus grounding

    Well here goes, initiating a new thread. I feel this one deserves it's own discussion, in close association with the one re Troy grounding.
    Some months ago during endless noodling on the web re all things audio, I came across references to Tripoint Troy and then Entreq. After discussion both with Miguel of Troy and Fraser, the main man at the UK distributor for Entreq, I decided to go with a Silver Tellus audition, esp. since next to impossible to get hold of a Troy in the UK, and I didn't get on with a particular claim of superiority made to me by Miguel.
    This one I was REALLY skeptical of, thought it might be up there with the other black boxes/resonators etc promising vast improvements based on "interesting" science (Lessloss Blackbody, Steinmusic Harmonizers etc), that as a rational person I rail against.
    Anyhow, there Fraser was in my apartment with a wooden box, the Silver Tellus, about the size and weight of a small power amp. Apparently it contains a grounding plate, and metre upon metre of silver interspersed with inert material. Totally passive ie not plugged into the mains. At this point, Fraser only linked my preamp into it via an Apollo earth terminal from a spare rca. And that was it for the install.
    So we listened to one song. Hmm, nothing really. The second song, something fascinating happened - the whole soundstage expanded, and even more importantly, stabilised, ie became extremely still, almost fixed in space. Fraser said after that it takes some time to bed in, initial changes within 5mins, but the biggest after 24-48hrs. Since this demo, as I've got to know the change, my analogy is that before, music existed in a shimmering heathaze, since the upgrade, the sound field is like a still, crisp morning.
    From this expanded/stabilised soundstage emerges air and ambience around instruments/voices, without the negative of the sound floating listlessly, but space anchored, ie grounded with excellent dynamics.
    Since then I've added extra Apollo ground leads to my Straingauge cart energiser and my Emm Labs CDSA, getting a further evolution to this improvement. Now I've added a 4th and 5th to my Audion Black Shadow SET monoblocks, which actually have dedicated ground terminals. Wow! Something really fantastic is happening. A really amazing bloom is adding to the other advantages bestowed, so much so that a certain cd I thought I knew backwards I'm getting totally reacquainted with.
    In some ways the best thing you can say about all this is that the basic nature of the system is unchanged, so if you like your components, it complements them totally. But it goes on to enhance their potential to the max.
    Next step is considering the Atlantis add on box which adds mega amounts of grounding potential to the mix, possibly Apollos to distribution blocks if they have grounding posts. And the fascinating prospect of grounding my Symposium rack itself in a Faraday cage effect.
    I'll give my take on how I think this is all working, and how it may differ from the way Troy works, on a future post.
    For now, I'm happy to answer qs based on my experience using Silver Tellus.

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    I hate to be the only one to answer my own thread, but I'd like to keep it's awareness alive. Going to a fascinating place with Entreq Silver Tellus installed. There's no doubt that the 4th and 5th Apollo grounding leads (to incorporate my SETs in the grounding) has transformed my system. My nearest point of reference is that I'm approaching the effortless transparency I was aware of when auditioning electrostatics a few months ago (real stage depth, unrestricted decay of notes) with none of the disdavantages I also noticed at the time (slight headphone-like effect to soundfield, lack of "groundedness"), hence maintaining all that make my Zu Definitions 4 spkrs irreplaceable to me (real density of tone, lack of crossover artifacts) with added goodness.
    Aiming to audition add-on Entreq Atlantis box. This is just to be connected to the Silver Tellus by a single Apollo or Atlantis grounding lead, and will substantially increase the amount of grounding material available to the system to hopefully max these effects already established.

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    Spirit ... good to hear the success you have had , all the add ons and extra cabling is pushing retail into Troy territory , something to think about surely .

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    Jazz, price still not in Troy territory. Standard Silver Tellus and Atlantis c4000/$8000, 5 Apollo leads/1 Atlantis lead c1500/$2500. Standard Troy $12500/11000 or New Troy $15000/13000 incls 4 cables, but a fifth adds $3000/2500. So total running cost for my system Entreq 5500/$10500 v Troy 13500-$16000/New Troy 15500-$18000. So in the UK, I'm paying not more than 40% of the total Troy cost for Entreq Silver Tellus/Atlantis.
    Because of import taxes US to UK and vice versa, the price differential wouldn't be so advantageous importing Entreq to the US via home grown Troy.
    Another reason not to go down Troy route is that there is no ability to trial it over here. So in the UK anyhow, Entreq is a slam dunk for quality grounding.

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    Silver Tellus was 3000 USD last I remember , gone up has it . When do you expect your Atlantis add-on , be interested to know how much of a leap it is . So far there has been no meaningful comparisons between the S.T and the Troy S.E . Are these the only two grounding units out there ? At least as far as I know they are .

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    Sorry Jazz, in the Uk I was just making some simple currency conversions, a bit off, obv! If Silver Tellus in the US is $3k, the Atlantis add on will be in $3.5k-$4k territory, so $6.5k-$7k the two. Still more affordable by far than Troy. Nope no shootouts yet. I think Lloyd LL21 is awaiting the chance to hear both a-b. Me? Life's too short, the price is right, the effects impressive, and my exposure to Troy will be non existent. So I'm settling on Silver Tellus/maybe Atlantis. Will post Atlantis impressions when I trial it, hopefully in Oct.

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    Need to get past price considerations, or this thread will disappear into insignificance. Aiming to get Atlantis add-on to trial in next couple of days. Will talk SQ, not cost, next post.

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    Having become an Entreq fan thanks to Fraser I just wanted to reassure you that there are others out there who have also been very impressed and pleased with the improvements wrought to their systems with firstly Konstantin speaker cables and subsequently i/cs and more recently 2x Silver Tellus and so far two Apollo earth leads. It started with an audition of Tellurium Ultra Black cables and the insertion of a Tellus. We were playing the Patricia Barber SACD Modern Cool using the track 11- Post Modern Blues. The piano cuts in about 90 seconds into this track and the insertion of the Tellus dramatically improved the reproduction of the piano. It was instantly apparent and I was hooked. I went on to add the Entreq cables and subsequently 2 Silver Tellus and Silver Minimus. More recently I added two Apollo earths to the Vitus SIA 025 and Puccini player again with instantly apparent improvements. The system has stepped up a gear with every Stillpoint and Entreq upgrade without any downsides at all. Like you I am looking forward to sampling an Atlantis when available. In my experience the Tellus etc will improve any decent system and I would thoroughly recommend people to try it. I have not heard the Troy Tripoint but the I am very happy with the Entreq Tellus and it is certainly more affordable than the Troys.
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    Thank you Barry, I'd hate to feel I was adrift alone in the audio sea. First with balanced power, then the move to SETs, and now full Entreq grounding, the improvements in my system have been beyond subtle. I'm now running a Silver Tellus with 5 Apollo ground leads and my ongoing conclusion is that it introduces a total calm and stillness to the soundstage that enables transparency to layer back and detail to emerge unobscured, a nice complement to the lowered noise floor of balanced and the saturated tonality of SETs.
    So glad you're getting the audio message loud and clear. And fraser of Kog audio, the UK Entreq dealer is the very epitome of the perfect gentleman in the cynical world of high end audio. Now, can we convince any others to take the plunge?...

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    Hi Gents,

    Just posted my comments on the Atlantis + Atlantis cables with the Silver Tellus on the Tripoint Troy thread...in a few words, I really enjoyed the addition of the Atlantis 'system'...a lot. Between the Atlantis cable or the big new box which attaches to the original Silver Tellus via an Atlantis grounding cable...I would go for the Atlantis cable with just the Silver Tellus before I went with Silver Tellus and Atlantis box (but without any Atlantis cables other than the one which connects the two boxes). the new Atlantis cable made that much difference.

    Enjoy the Entreq! It is truly great stuff, as far as I have read based in real science in terms of good grounding, impedance 'leveling'? across the components, and generally well executed.
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