Tripoint troy signature grounding device
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Hi Steve...the lengths of each of the 4 standard cables which come with the Troy SE are above. As for the cost of a 5th grounding wire, i have not investigated fully. My recollection is the mid-level (Master Reference) was $3K retail for a 2.5 meter cable. I am totally guessing it might be $1500 for a silver signature of similar length.
What you might find is that by grounding the front end sources and preamp (all on the rack i presume), you get quite a lot of benefit...and leave the amps alone? food for thought.
I'm of one voice with Lloyd when it comes to the effects of grounding, but where Entreq DEF has the edge is pricing. In my system I've ended up with FIVE grounding leads. If I was to go full on Atlantis upgrade crazy this would amount to c£8500, with Atlantis cables coming in at £890 each. For me to go Troy SE, this would be closer to £16000, with the additional Thor cable at £3000. Maybe outside Europe, the price differential wouldn't be so marked.
Just remember, if you go Troy SE plus half a dozen or more leads, you'll be paying a significant margin over Entreq prices. And in my experience, the 5 leads well exceeds the single preamp lead I tried originally.
Just remember, if you go Troy SE plus half a dozen or more leads, you'll be paying a significant margin over Entreq prices. And in my experience, the 5 leads well exceeds the single preamp lead I tried originally.
My experience is that amplifiers produce the most noise,but that also depends on the internal grounding of the amplifier. I connected one amp and the soundstage collapsed and one other was the opposite. My rule if the piece of gear is connected by IC's it gets connected. In my system when I first did this it took about 50 hours for all my cables and gear to stabalise again. When I connected my MR70 ,about 24 hours,typically the soundstage ,will open,close and then open again. You should notice more,clarity,transparency,tonal nuance,and dynamics. Preamps and amps benefit the most,but the sum of everything is far greater than a single piece.
Hi Steve...just double-checked...the Silver Signature costs a lot less than i guessed...$550 per 1m cable. $100 extra for every additional meter. Thor Master Ref is $3850 per meter...$1500 per additional meter. (The Master Ref is discontinued).
Your welcome. Never under estimate the amount of noise in your system. Noise is a funny thing,you can't tell it's there until it is removed. The natural pathway is for the noise to go back to ground. Noise is not distortion,two different things.
Agree Roger. After 5 years of running a modest balanced power system on it's own spur and being delighted with the reduction of noise giving me the fabled after midnight sound 24/7, I'm finding that my Entreq grounding is so effective on another plane, that it's highlighting some shortcomings in this power foundation that I wasn't aware of pre-Entreq installation. That's why I'm aiming to install a pro studio quality 8kVA balanced transformer w/ an 85kg transformer core (or maybe even a more modest price 10kVA or even 15kVA), a dedicated Furutech radial main, and Rhodium plated Furutech sockets. This will take what my current setup provides a whole leap fwd (I hope!), and allow my Entreq grounding to work to the max. The lack of noise so far is really instructional as to the bottle necks we're not even aware restrict our systems - until, like you say, they're gone.
LL21 and Audiocrack, I might suggest you speak with Nathan at NVS Sound and have him make a Silver 1 Power Cable with shielding that sinks to the Troy. Put the cable on your power conditioner or transport. The Troy opens up a new world of possibilities. Violins will bring tears of joy with the Troy/NVS combination.
Entertaining thread. Bravo to LL21 and Audiocrack (and Robert and others) for sharing about Tripoint and getting closer to the MUSIC. I know Miguel well, and heard his products demoed after-hours at Axpona in Atlanta several years ago. Not subtle stuff. I have tried star grounding devices (Granite Audio) with modest results. I have a dedicated room with an isolated, ionic grounding rod which had even more impact on the "noise floor." At some point, I will take the plunge with Tripoint when $ avails itself. I find it amusing to witness the scorn and disrespect that his products generate on the internet from people who have not heard it. On the flip side, you see the giddy and gleeful response from endusers that ENDURES. People buy and keep Tripoint products which is rare in audio these days. A pearl of great price.......
Hi GearD, Thanks for weighing in. Did you ever compare Tripont to your ionic grounding rod?
I have not. I have yet to hear Tripoint in my own rig but will in the new year. Its not an either or situation though. I would use both....
The Lyncole ionic grounding rod is for safety during a thunderstorm (it's part of the GEC system). Tripoint troy signature grounding device won't help much during that storm as it's part of the EGC safety ground system.
Broadcast engineering, recording engineering and industrial engineering. Just what does my equipment have to do with you doing something dangerous, something prohibited by the electrical code and something that is the opposite of the writing's in all the good books and papers on AC power and audio systems?
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