What's going on with the US stock market lately?

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All of the above plus the price of oil.

Bob...and a political black swan. Trump’s war with the Deep State. If Herr Mueller with Mr. Magoo and Mr. Peepers indict Trump..kiss this market goodbye.
 

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. . . I m building a large long goldminers position . . .

Spot gold and gold miner equities often do not display the close correlation people usually assume. Why gold stocks for you and not a gold trust ETF or physical gold?
 

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Yes and right at the top of the list.

The price of oil going down is good for most of the S&P 500.

There is no trade war. (I think you think there is only because I believe you don’t understand the tactics of this administration.)

Interest rates have started to go down.

Italy falling apart brings down European banks, but this makes U.S. stocks look relatively more stable.

Debt levels? I completely agree with you. ;)
 

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Some gold mine stocks have gone up 4 times or 6 times when gold went to 2000 an ounce , roughly when gold only doubled .
At my account in holland it cost nothing to keep the position , physical gold you need to store which are costs
ETF s have probably more position costs .
Nobody can of course say if or when it will happen , i like speculation a bit more , investing is too boring lol
 

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But the line from last year is still up in a larger timeframe .
Interest rates are bound to go up imo and then all hell brakes loose my guess is at 4 or 5
The EU is a corrupt dead horse which they are pulling/keeping alive on low interest rates , too many fat cats in brussels.
 
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Some gold mine stocks have gone up 4 times or 6 times when gold went to 2000 an ounce , roughly when gold only doubled .
At my account in holland it cost nothing to keep the position , physical gold you need to store which are costs
ETF s have probably more position costs .
Nobody can of course say if or when it will happen , i like speculation a bit more , investing is too boring lol

Fair enough. :)
 

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The price of oil going down is good for most of the S&P 500.

There is no trade war. (I think you think there is only because I believe you don’t understand the tactics of this administration.)

Interest rates have started to go down.

Italy falling apart brings down European banks, but this makes U.S. stocks look relatively more stable.

Debt levels? I completely agree with you. ;)

Declining crude is deflationary....especially given the debt.

The art of the deal...I'll give you that.

Interest rates...can signal a market top....especially after a run.

Europe is a cluster and a declining Euro is a rising dollar...bearish for multi nationals.

:D
 

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I ve told long time ago , interest rate rise would eventually sink stocks , just as they elevated ( interest at 0 ) them in the beginning of 2009 .
How ever my dumb ass missed the whole rally :p;)
Now lets see where my july put contracts end up , possibly SPX 2140 , i hope ..lol
 
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If this is not a trade war, I don't know what is. Bad for business, bad for the economy and the stock market. If Trump is such a good negotiator, why is he not negotiating? I'll tell you why. It's all smoke and mirrors. He's a weenie, he's not tough. Just look at how he talks about Kim Jung Un, kissing up. He's a poor negotiator, so all he can do is act unilaterally.

I think it is clever how China and The EU are targeting Trump-land by going after Harley, pork and soy beans. I've listened to the interviews. These people will have to be starving and bankrupt before they finally realize that Trump has screwed them. Tribalism at its best.

Going after tariffs on high-tech is a BIG MISTAKE IMO. This is our golden egg and you don't mess with that. Trump is convinced that cars and steel mills are our golden eggs. The other tariffs are an inconvenience, but not a big hit to the economy. Tech will be a big hit. Most are already losing a lot of money in their 401K's thanks to this bluster.
 

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If this is not a trade war, I don't know what is. Bad for business, bad for the economy and the stock market. If Trump is such a good negotiator, why is he not negotiating? I'll tell you why. It's all smoke and mirrors. He's a weenie, he's not tough. Just look at how he talks about Kim Jung Un, kissing up. He's a poor negotiator, so all he can do is act unilaterally.

I think it is clever how China and The EU are targeting Trump-land by going after Harley, pork and soy beans. I've listened to the interviews. These people will have to be starving and bankrupt before they finally realize that Trump has screwed them. Tribalism at its best.

Going after tariffs on high-tech is a BIG MISTAKE IMO. This is our golden egg and you don't mess with that. Trump is convinced that cars and steel mills are our golden eggs. The other tariffs are an inconvenience, but not a big hit to the economy. Tech will be a big hit. Most are already losing a lot of money in their 401K's thanks to this bluster.

You're clueless pal. The Chinese economy is in a major slowdown, devaluation is not an option, they have ZERO monetary manipulation at their disposal, they import nothing from America so their tariff threat is meaningless, the EU will NEVER side with China just like the EU is siding with Trump when having no choice with Iran.

Xi's threats are all based on meaningless assumptions.

Lastly, China is an enemy militarily and economically for the last 25 years. People like you support America's enemies which is fine as it defines who you are. As to the stock market, short term pain for long term gain. Stock market down 5.5% from it's peak is hardly a crash and quite frankly is due for a correction to skim the overvalued cream. Reality is day of the election, Dow futures were down 1000 points to a Dow 17K on a Trump Victory. Where are we now? Pretty good for a "weenie" Mr. Nugent, NO??
 

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The price of oil going down is good for most of the S&P 500.

There is no trade war. (I think you think there is only because I believe you don’t understand the tactics of this administration.)

Interest rates have started to go down.

Italy falling apart brings down European banks, but this makes U.S. stocks look relatively more stable.

Debt levels? I completely agree with you. ;)

Exactly.
 

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How is the timber industry in the USA stock market? ...Prices for new homes going up, or down?
Young couples find it more affordable to start new family homes? The economy is in good hands, people's hands, the hard workers who invest with their sweat and money in the banks?
And the large investment institutions they invest properly and securely and wisely the money that is entrusted to them? ...For their good benefit, or theirs?

I ask because it's been about a week I didn't follow the recent US stock market...Dow Jones Industrial Average and NASDAQ Composite.
 

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I think trade tariffs are never a smart thing but who am i .
That things get made in low wage countries is a marketmechanism nobody is gonna change that , lots of US companies profit from that .
In the company where i work it goes as follows , first things get made in belgium 50 years ago , then spain , poland turkey etc
When these became to expensive it became china , and now india , its a market mechanism simple .
But its not gonnna last china is becoming much more expensive to produce and for people to live in , workers will demand higher wages , in my opinion in 20 - 30 years it wont be a discussion no more
 

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How are the US farmers doing?
How is US Harley-Davidson doing?
The aviation industry in the USA?
The petroleum industry in the USA?
The steel companies in the USA?
Renewable resources in the USA?

How many jobs lost for every single job created, or the reverse?
Are normal Americans gaining, better off today than tomorrow never come?
Are we happier living in this great country built by our fathers and ancestors?
Is America better positioned in the world's stage, or in the home's stage?

I just asked because I didn't follow the stock market much last week.
 
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