It seems like you'd both be putting the delicate cantilever on a surface to support the thing, and also plunging the likely-glued stylus into a water-and/or-solvent bath for a while under ultrasonics... I dunno. Seems incredibly unwise. (Certainly it'd be crazy to do with something that has the...
I think Ralf actually does this with his "top-end" unit. As I recall, Brinkmann has a specific HRS base (although not a whole stand)...or is it a granite base? Might be both...
I'm sorry, Ralf - I didn't mean to put you in an awkward position. I was talking more about material investigations you might have done as opposed to the investigations others have no doubt made as well. Your experiences would be of interest.
Your comment about "damping" was why I mentioned...
So, Ralf, to delve a bit deeper: given your 'table's design, you are optimizing for vibration control. Why is a high-mass platter in layers (in your case, graphite, Corian and aluminum) better than, say, a thin sandwich of aluminum and sorbothane? (No doubt something like that has been tried and...
To be clear, I have no general problem with digital content. I just think we -- or I -- lost aspects of the listening experience when I went digital...and so, I've tried to bring that back as an additional option...not an exclusive one.
So, to continue the saga a bit, I've tried to stay on the "neutral" side, tonally speaking, and have mounted an AT-ART1000 (which I realize is on the heavier side, so I purchased the heavier Rega counterweight) with appropriate spacers to compensate for height. Of course, that's only an...
I really appreciate all the time people have spent thinking about this and offering advice.
Given the difficulties involved in actually auditioning, I had tried to narrow the field, perhaps inappropriately, to two high-mass designs, both with the possibility of multiple tonearms, both with...
OK, so to be clear - you would say with a "top cartridge" there would be no difference between the P10 and, say, a $200 Crosley turntable. They'd both be at the very lowest possible end of performance.
I totally accept that. But within this analogy would the Rega P10 be a "beetle"? And if so, would the P1 be a Hot Wheels?
The continuum here is obviously gigantic...and it seems (to me, showing my ignorance) that the jump from a Wildcat to a P1 is a huge step change, whereas a P1 to a P3 is...
Totally agreed. It's unfortunate I don't have a "cartridge and arm cellar", like a wine cellar, where I can switch around a lot and discover exactly this within the context of my own system...which (and I know I'm repeating myself) is why I asked the question in the first place.
I could run...
So, taking this slightly further...you would suggest (I think) that unsuspended, high-mass turntables in general are going to have the same overall sound (over-generalizing, I know), and most of the difference is going to be in the cartridge and, perhaps, how well it can be set up. Comparisons...
I don't mind rude assessments. But I understood your perspective (and expected it from one or more).
I have two - a PS Audio Direct Stream (which again, ends up DADA) and a more direct Sonore microRendu (which is pure D into the speaker).
The server is a Roon Nucleus+, with local content...
I don't think this is a general problem with the AF 'tables, given they're well regarded for their speed stability. Rather, I think there's something wrong with this particular unit, and I'm at a loss to understand what. But it's certainly not a problem my own 'tables suffer from, and it jumps...
Understood. So you'd basically put this in a "lost cause" bucket - given the end-state ADDA/Class D/DSP setup, any other chances before that state are effectively pointless beyond a basic level of competence.
My point there is that it eliminates all the other factors...not that I prefer...